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makeste ([personal profile] makeste) wrote2009-07-23 01:39 pm

ITP we stubbornly ignore reality and live in a fantasy world.

Spoilers for KHR 251 came out yesterday and they basically detail a series of increasingly horrible events. D:


From Mangahelpers:

The front cover is Kikyo.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Irie's left side is pierced.
He falls.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

At the same time,
Yamamoto's trying to get at Daisy.

NOOO--wait, this one's not actually bad yet!

Daisy remains awake.

Oh. Never mind.

Gokudera's unsteady on his feet.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Shouichi doesn't stay awake.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Tsuna and the others lost.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SOB. So basically Team Vongola failed big time in large part due to Gokudera being beaten by flowers (:|!) and Kikyou being a bitch. All I can say is, Shou had better not be dead. D:

Faced with this discouraging news, I think now would be a good time to assume that somehow everything will be all right and they'll all go to a round two for no reason. Therefore, I will now indulge in a round of KHR FANTASY BASEBALL.

First, to recap: Our initial teams consist of the somewhat terrifying Millefiore Funeral Wreaths and company, and the sharply-dressed Vongola Decimo and friends. And by friends, of course, I mean Squalo, Basil, the group at the bottom of this page, and possibly these three fools, since they were hiding in that panel for some reason. Anyway, as you all recall, Choice is a game of choice randomly determines a different location and number of players for each round. But the players are restricted by their flame types, which is where things start to get interesting.

Now, in the last round we saw a scenario in which the Millefiore ended up needing two Mist-types, which wasn't a problem for them because they have their never-ending supply of random A-rank dudes to pick from. But if such a situation were to arise on the Vongola side, they'd be in a bit more of a jam. HOWEVER, they did bring along a few extras for just such an occasion! Let's take stock.

Sky - Tsuna, Dino (I assume? I can't actually remember)
Sun - Ryohei, possibly Reborn (because it would be awesome)
Mist - Chrome, Mukuro?? (WHERE ARE YOU?)
Cloud - Hibari
Rain - Yamamoto, Basil, and Squalo
Lightning - Lambo, Gamma
Storm - Gokudera, Bianchi, Nosaru, and Tazaru
OTHER - I-Pin, Kyoko, Haru, Gianinni, Spanner, and Shou who hopefully isn't dead

So there's actually a lot of room to mix things up. Let's use our imaginations!


Scenario #1: All About Gokudera

Sky - 0
Sun - 1
Mist - 0
Cloud - 0
Rain - 0
Lightning - 1
Storm - 2
OTHER - 0

In this scenario, the Vongola team would consist of Gokudera, Ryohei, Lambo, and an extra storm type, who I presume would be Bianchi. Naturally, Gokudera would immediately appoint himself the leader of such a team (and as the highest-ranking guardian there, and probably the best strategist as well, he wouldn't really be out of line in doing so), and naturally, everyone else on said team would immediately proceed to ignore his commands, because when have any of these three ever listened to him ever. On top of that, Gokudera would be even more high-strung than usual due to his epic failure in the previous round, so basically the resulting match would a hilarious, out-of-control scene in which everyone splits up every which way doing their own thing. But then, since this is shounen, somehow they all pull together in the end and show off the results of all their training and kick some Millefiore ass. And we finally get to see the new Sistema C.A.I., and also maybe Gokudera teams up with Bianchi somehow because I CAN DREAM! Oh, and we'll say Lambo ends up being the Vongola target, just cuz. And they all have to protect him, but because he's Lambo and an idiot, he ends up RUNNING AWAY or something and they're all like, "NO YOU IDIOT!" and trying to chase him down before the Millefiore get him. XD Basically this fight is all my dreams come true.

ODDS OF HAPPENING: 10 to 1. Gokudera does need to redeem himself, and since Lambo and Ryohei haven't fought yet, the odds of them being in the next round are pretty good. But since this battle is also basically an excuse to make Gokudera the main character for the next five or six chapters, Amano would have to show some pretty abrupt and blatant favoritism. (I CAN ALWAYS HOPE.)
WIN FACTOR: Extreme.
WOULD THEY WIN?: Oh you bet.


Scenario #2: Hibari Plus All The Guys That Hibari Hates

Sky - 1
Sun -
Mist - 1
Cloud - 1
Rain - 0
Lightning - 1
Storm - 0
OTHER - 0

In this scenario, we have Hibari, Chrome, Tsuna, and Lambo, except that for some reason they decide Tsuna should sit this one out (because... he... broke his contacts again...?), so they send in Dino instead. And also, right before they get started, Gamma shows up and for some reason they're all like, "HEY SURE WHY NOT" and they let him fight instead of Lambo (in their defense, anything to keep Lambo from being set loose with this group XD). And let's say Chrome's the target, because why not. So Dino tries to take charge, except that immediately Hibari stalks off on his own because that's how we do it cloud-style, and Gamma runs off on his own right after that. So Dino gets stuck on the defense with Chrome, only he gets separated from her by whoever he's fighting, so she's all on her own! And she kicks ass thanks to all the training Mammon gave her, but because Gamma ends up losing to whatever guy he fought (it's karma), she ends up being outnumbered. AND THEN MUKURO SHOWS UP SOMEHOW! Oh boy!

ODDS OF HAPPENING: 15 to 1. At first glance it may seem like the most random combo ever, but then you realize--this is Reborn we're talking about. Which means that the more ridiculous it is, the more likely that it'll actually happen. So.
WIN FACTOR: Extreme like dinosaurs exploding.
WOULD THEY WIN?: No, because once Mukuro drops in, the Vongola side gets disqualified even though Hibari successfully eliminates the Millefiore target. WOE.


Scenario #3: Now You're Just Making Shit Up

Sky - 0
Sun - 1
Mist - 0
Cloud - 0
Rain - 3
Lightning - 0
Storm - 0
OTHER - 1

In this scenario, Byakuran gets picked for the Millefiore side! So the Vongola are all like, "FFFFF" because all they've got are three rain-types plus Ryohei. So then Reborn suddenly decides that he wants to pinch-hit for Ryohei because he's also a sun-type and it's his time to shine. And also Gianinni is there, just for lulz. So, Gianinni just stands around awkwardly while Yamamoto and Squalo argue over who has to stay behind to guard Basil (who is the target), and meanwhile Reborn goes out and has an epic fight against Byakuran. It's must-see TV.

ODDS OF HAPPENING: lol.
WIN FACTOR: So awesome the manga would have to end afterward because nothing could ever top it.
WOULD THEY WIN?: Twist ending! Reborn ultimately loses after a long and awesomely drawn-out fight, but because the Millefiore side has to get through Yamamoto and Squalo (HA, good luck) before they can take out Basil, Gianinni has time to sneak through enemy lines and blow up the enemy target in a moment of utter wtf. WHO KNEW?


Anyway. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE SOME DREAM TEAM SCENARIOS? I am obviously having way too much fun with this. XD

[identity profile] dtn.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
*ECHOS YOUR NOOOOOOOOO*

I don't like Kikyo D: For god's sake I thought HE was a girl and that's a mistake I'm never forgiving myself for. *fails D:*

I love your #2 though! To be honest I'm actually curious how Gamma will fit into anything at the moment.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
*wails a nice, long NOOOOO with you*

I have trouble imagining how anyone could like Kikyou at this point, except maybe as an antagonist that you love to hate. But he is just a ruiner of things. >:(

Yeah, ever since they showed that little panel of him and the other two back in chapter 241, I've been waiting for him to show up and affect the plot in whatever manner. I'm really curious to see if he'll actually team up with the Vongola or not.

[identity profile] creativexwonder.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
8| *couldn't resist reading some of your entry*

:O I think Reborn was/is the sun holder of the Arcobaleno babies. 8Da he has the yellow pacifier~

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry if you didn't want to be spoiled, orz. THIS CHAPTER IS DISMAYING.

Yeah, he does have the yellow pacifier, so it would make sense if he was a sun type. 8D And of course the odds of him actually fighting are nonexistent, considering a) all that non-7^3 business, b) his not having any boxes/rings that we know about (unless the pacifier counts as a ring), and c) his never having done anything like that in the history of the manga... but it would still be awesome. XD

[identity profile] creativexwonder.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
lol. It's fine. The chapter comes out tomorrow, so it's no biggie.. 8"Db

Mhmm! I have this speculation of all the Arcobaleno babies:

Luce - Sky gardian
Reborn - Sun gardian
Colonnello - Rain guardian
Fon - Storm guardian
Verde - Thunder guardian
Skull - Cloud guardian
Viper - Mist guardian (obviously~)

8| Noww I'm just waiting for Amano to get the gang out of TYL so Yamamoto can explain things. D: Yama has some 'splainin to do.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, okay. XD

Yeah, that makes sense. I assume all of the Arcobaleno's wave types correspond with their pacifier colors (although things do get a little confusing when it comes to Lal and Colonnello).

Sob, by this point I'd almost forgotten that Yamamoto still hasn't explained the whole Arcobaleno thing to everyone else. XD It's really getting ridiculous by this point (especially considering that in the anime they're now embarking on a quest to find all the Arcobaleno and he still hasn't decided to speak up). I WANT ANSWERS. :|

[identity profile] creativexwonder.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
83b

yup~ But oh gawd, yeah with the Lal and Colonnello D:

D'8 I KNOW. I WANT ANSWERS TOO.

[identity profile] thisiscyrene.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
If Shouichi isn't ok, I'M GONNA RAGE LIKE NO OTHER.

BEST SCENARIOS EVER. Ahhhhhh, wishing for #1, and honestly #2 would not surprise me at all at this point.

[identity profile] rikasaurus.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
...GO AWAY, KIKYOU >:[ JUST....GO AWAY. *adds on to your NOOOOOOOOetc.*

I do hope Shou isn't dead, either. He was kind of cool in my book.

And a Ryohei + Reborn team would be epic. It doesn't have to make sense XD

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too. >:(

Haha, they're all really fun to think about. XD #1 is my fangirl dream scenario, but almost any combo could work depending on how Amano plays it out. The crazier the better.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want him to go away so much as I want him to get the pwning of a lifetime, but other than that I share your sentiments.

HE CAN'T BE DEAD. I love him way too much and also there are certain scenes that need to happen first or I won't have closure. :( Hopefully since Amano so recently killed Genkishi off, she'll let Irie off the hook.

Oh man, a Ryohei+Reborn combo would be amazing. THE POWER OF THE SUN!

[identity profile] cleartempest.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
GOKUDERA DOESN'T GET A WIN??? D: GOOD GOD, THE POOR BOY.

KHR FANTASY BASEBALL AFSLKDSGLKHDSGGG YOU ARE MY HERO ♥

and also maybe Gokudera teams up with Bianchi somehow
HELLS TO THE YES

LAMBO NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING EPIC STILL

I THINK I LIKE #2 BECAUSE I'M EXTREMELY BIASED, I mean...the return of Gamma, more panel time for Dino, Chrome finally being badass/MUKURO SHOWING UP. Uh. YES.

AFLKHSDGLKG #3 I...I.......can see it happening XD oh god *dies* REBORN WANTING TO SHINE LOLLLL

I...actually haven't caught up yet but one scenario of mine would involve Lambo, and be like #1. He's the target and right when there's no one there for him, he does some epic time fuck...like maybe his bull will run him through time or something and idk, MAYBE HE CAN TAG TEAM WITH HIS OLDER SELVES

But with the amount of panel time his training got (read: none) I'm thinking he's not gonna get to shine here >:

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The sad thing is, Lal and Colonnello were explained in great detail way back during her fight with Ginger, but I still don't understand what happened. XD WAS SHE RAIN OR MIST OR CLOUD OR WHAT?

Yet another thing Amano's holding over everyone's heads to ensure that they keep reading this never-ending arc. :P

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
NOT ONLY DOES HE NOT GET A WIN, HE GETS THE LAMEST LOSS SINCE YAMAMOTO GOT OWNED BY A WALL.

IT'S FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY. ♥

Seriously, a Gokudera/Bianchi team-up would make me so happy I might cry. PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN EVENTUALLY SOMEHOW.

It's been like... a hundred and fifty chapters since the last time Lambo did something epic, so YES. He is so overdue omg.

SCENARIO #2 IS DEFINITELY FULL OF WINFUL POSSIBILITIES.

AMANO RECENTLY REVEALED THAT HE IS HOT, SO CLEARLY IT IS A SIGN THAT THE TIME IS SOON APPROACHING FOR HIM TO KICK SOME ASS. MAYBE.

I...actually haven't caught up yet

:(!

but one scenario of mine would involve Lambo, and be like #1. He's the target and right when there's no one there for him, he does some epic time fuck...like maybe his bull will run him through time or something and idk, MAYBE HE CAN TAG TEAM WITH HIS OLDER SELVES

Oh, God... I don't know if this is what you were getting at, but I suddenly had this mental image of, "OH NO, THE CHOICE-THINGY SAYS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THREE LIGHTNING-TYPES FOR THIS ROUND, AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE!" and then Irie (what with his not being dead) whips out the TYL bazooka and is like, "OHO! THERE'S NOTHING IN THE RULES ABOUT THEM ALL HAVING TO BE FROM THE SAME TIME," and the resulting battle is some epic complicated thing with Lambo constantly swapping with his 10YL and 20YL selves. XDDD NEVER MIND THAT IT MAKES NO SENSE, WHO CARES ABOUT SENSE.

And I don't know, none of them really got much panel time when it came to training, so I think there's still hope. He'll definitely get to do something cool, eventually. XD

[identity profile] cleartempest.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
AMANO RECENTLY REVEALED THAT HE IS HOT, SO CLEARLY IT IS A SIGN THAT THE TIME IS SOON APPROACHING FOR HIM TO KICK SOME ASS. MAYBE.
AHAHA XD THIS MAY VERY WELL BE TRUE

!!! OH! DIDN'T SHOUICHI DO EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON THE TYL BAZOOKA?! MAYBE HE WILL TEAM UP WITH LAMBO BECAUSE ONLY HE CAN USE THE BAZOOKA LIKE THAT
OTL WHAT ARE WE EVEN SAYING NOW???

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
HOTNESS OF CHARACTER x PROMINENCE ON CHARACTER ON THE COVER PAGE = LIKELIHOOD OF BADASSNESS. IT'S SCIENCE.

LOL I DON'T EVEN KNOW, THIS IS ALL CRAZY TALK. BUT, SHOUICHI+LAMBO TEAM-UP FOR THE WIN. ...Though all of that business with the white time machine might put a damper on things, if it prevents Lambo from switching out with his future selves. XD BUT SURELY IF ANYONE COULD FIND A CHEATING WAY TO WORK AROUND THAT, SHOU COULD.

[identity profile] creativexwonder.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm--well, Colonnello was taking Lal's spot ('cos he's a man and he can do that apparently) but since she uses mist ring boxes.. IDK. D:

yeeepp. >.>;

I thought Making Shit Up was the entire premise of KHR anyway

[identity profile] half-sleeping.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Gokudera is just. Amano hates him, right? She must.

Shou-chan! My Shou-chan! ;_;

Re: I thought Making Shit Up was the entire premise of KHR anyway

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
She's very bipolar when it comes to him. One minute she's like, "FUCK YOU," and the next she's like, "well, okay, I'll give you five wave energies and floating bones and just let you be amazing in general for a fight that will last so long that even your most hardcore fans will start checking their watches." ...maybe she does hate him. XD

The spoilers are just specific enough to really freak me out while still being vague enough that I'm not even sure what's happening to him. Except that he gets "pierced" and then "doesn't stay awake." :/

[identity profile] azartti.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Good lord, I approve of the first theory. I wouldn't stop laughing. And the third one is so full of win XDD

[identity profile] cleartempest.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
THIS MEANS MUKURO MIGHT SHOW UP
SEEMS LIKE #2 MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY...!

Oh yeah. The time machine :| Well, Shouchi did build it...XD
...won't it be kinda interesting if their tyl selves came along and fought with them?
Wait no, that's just weird.

[identity profile] caddles.livejournal.com 2009-07-25 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
This chapter broke my heart. ; _____; Irie had better be okay, I've developed such a fondness for him.

Kikyou is such a dick! For a moment, I was hoping against hope that maybe -- just MAAAAYBE Byakuran might object to his former biffle getting killed??? noooooooo - hurt, but... no.

Byakuran truly is the anti-Christ of this series now. Considering he seems to enjoy having people around just so he can kill them off one by one. *has a moment of silence for Genkishi*

AND WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE ABOUT YAMAMOTO FAILING TO EXTINGUISH THE TARGET. I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT HE FAILED. THE MILLEFIORE SIMPLY CHEATED. *rageragerage*

(I support option #3, because I really want to see Mukuro again. I like option #1 too though, because I miss Gokudera being a piece of badass. D< )

[identity profile] caddles.livejournal.com 2009-07-25 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
the resulting battle is some epic complicated thing with Lambo constantly swapping with his 10YL and 20YL selves

*hopefully*

Or maybe -- MAYBE the bazooka BREAKS and all three Lambos FIGHT TOGETHER. 20YL AND 10YL LAMBOS FIGHTING BACK TO BACK. 8D

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, I still have hopes for that first theory. Feeble hopes, but still. XD They all hold a special place in my heart, but THAT ONE ESPECIALLY.

orz I always seem to be late replying to your comments

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
SORRY XD

Mine too. I'm really worried now, sob. IRIEEEE ;_;

Byakuran just stood there and SMILED, that son of a bitch. If he gave a damn at all, he sure didn't show it. Even I didn't really think he'd be that cold; then again, considering what happened with Genkishi, I probably shouldn't be surprised.

HE TOTALLY EXTINGUISHED THE TARGET FAIR AND SQUARE. It shouldn't count if Daisy just popped back up again. I DO NOT RECALL ANYTHING IN THE RULES ABOUT HAVING TO TAKE THE TARGET OUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. If he did it the first time it should count, damn it. :/

I support all the options, but if I'm honest #1 is totally my favorite. But I wouldn't say no to Mukuro's return either. >_>

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
HE DEFINITELY WILL, IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. *fingers crossed!*

Didn't they say at some point in one of the new anime episodes that the different versions of the guardians couldn't be in the same place at the same time because the universe might explode or somesuch? I can't say for sure, but I think I remember reading it in one of [livejournal.com profile] ekmisao's episode summaries. It's too bad, though; it might have been weird, but it would also have been incredibly cool. XD

[identity profile] cobizah.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't believe they did that to Irie!!!! No one used to die in KHR, but with Genkishi, it's possible...

And I got trapped by Kikyou AND Daisy orz. So confusing! Now, if BLUEBELL was a guy...

I love your scenarios! The first one in particular would be full of win, because Gokudera needs to kick some ass, dammit! And him finally manning up and talking/fighting alongside Bianchi would just be sweet... Awww <3 And the whole "Storm and Thunder are like brothers" is really cute too. Dera should be nicer to Lambo.

Just a question, but isn't Irie sun too? Or, I guess he's not anymore since he doesn't have a ring. And yay, I didn't imagine Gamma being there! XD He's a cool character. You should email your scenarios to Amano-sensei! XD They're almost crazy enough for Reborn!

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm starting to wonder if Amano didn't kill Genkishi just so that we'd all be terrified of anyone else getting seriously injured. SHE TOOK OFF THE KIDDIE GLOVES ON PURPOSE. The worst part is, it worked.

They just keep on getting prettier. By this point, if Bluebell turned out to be a guy, I honestly wouldn't be surprised... much. XD

Thanks! <3 I would seriously love to see Gokudera team up with his sister at least once; the character development would be epic. And if he doesn't have some sort of bonding moment with her before this arc ends, I will be seriously disappointed. (STILL wondering what it was she wanted to talk to him about, damn it.)

Yeah, he is a sun type, but since they counted him as a non-element in this battle, I'm guessing that it only counts if you've got a ring. (Too bad; I'd have loved to see him actually get to fight on the good guys' side.) Haha, almost crazy enough? XD Just goes to show how truly insane this manga really is.

[identity profile] nilly-chan.livejournal.com 2009-08-12 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I THINK I CAN EXPLAIN IT. I DIDN'T SEE THIS UNTIL NOW, SO IGNORE ME BEING LATE! SORRY. MAYBE YOU'VE ALREADY GOTTEN IT, IF THAT IS SO, THEN SORRY... AGAIN. /caps lock

Lal was supposed to be Rain, but then Colonnello showed up, pushed her out of the circle (so to speak) stole her place as the Rain Arcobaleno, made her a half-assed messed up Arcobaleno whose pacifier became "clouded" and therefore Mist/Cloud combo. AND, because her curse is shoddily done, as long as she doesn't use her Arcobaleno powers, she will grow up... which she did. And then she used her pacifier and lo and behold, she's really the rain type of gal.

ALSO: The last scenario made me laugh out loud. Gianinni wtf, why do I want to call him Giovannini? kicking Millefiore ass is AWESOME.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That's probably the clearest explanation I've read for that yet--thank you! <3 Okay, it makes more sense in my head now.

Hey, the Millefiore already underestimated Kusakabe and his mad carrying-a-dozen-people-at-once skills; they'd do well not to underestimate Gianinni and I always misspell his name until I go back and correct it XD too. >_>

[identity profile] nilly-chan.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, you're welcome, I'm awesome at simplifying complicated matters, or so I've been told. :D I've always been good at understanding the incomprehensible. xDD

This is true. xD Though I will never underestimate Gianinni since I saw him in drag, that could scare the shit out of anyone. They should use that as scare tactics, no one would want to get near him. XD