makeste: (wait what)
makeste ([personal profile] makeste) wrote2010-01-20 01:03 pm

"And this is Samwise Gamgee." "Your bodyguard?" "His GARDENER."

I've been watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy extended editions with my sis over the past week or so (long movies are long haha), and the more I watched, the less I could shake the random fanthought that holy shit, Gokudera is exactly like Sam. Like, to the point where they could almost be AU personality twins. I submit to you: Samwise Gamgee is a) beautifully, selflessly, obsessively loyal, b) hilariously mistrusting of anyone or anything he thinks might have the slightest negative impact on Frodo, c) surprisingly practical, d) surprisingly badass, and e) a dork. EH?

SAMPLE THOUGHTS WHILE WATCHING THE TRILOGY:

SAM: [has an awww moment with Frodo in the boat when he swears never to abandon him]
ME: Oh wow, he's just like Gokudera!

SAM: [is all in favor of killing Gollum because he DOESN'T TRUST HIM!!! and is extremely sulky about Frodo's decision to have him lead them to Mordor]
ME: Hahaha he really is like Gokudera!

SAM: [is having a giggly nerd moment at seeing a pair of oliphaunts]
ME: lol.

SAM: [is rationing Lembas bread so that they'll have enough, which means forgoing some of his own share so that his beloved Frodo can keep his strength up]
ME: Okay...

SAM: [is ranting to Frodo about how Gollum is clearly going to BETRAY and KILL them at any moment, but comes off as so hilariously paranoid that it's really hard to take him seriously even though he's totally right]
ME: ...

SAM: [takes on a giant spider like it's nothing because FUCK YOU, STAY AWAY FROM MR. FRODO. >( After stabbing it like a total badass, he later goes on to kill some orcs further on in his rescue attempt because why the hell not.]
ME: ......

SAM: [gets his ass kicked by GOLLUM OF ALL PEOPLE like an idiot. Twice.]
ME: Damn.


So yeah. And now it's my headcanon that, since we all know Gokudera's read Lord of the Rings (seeing as he's a HUGE NERD), Samwise the Brave is totally his favorite character. So just who is the real nerd here? I choose to plead the fifth.

[identity profile] vaultedthewall.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Your logic is both flawless and impressive.

New headcanon, GET.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it was.

I bet he has the one ring stashed among his jewelry collection somewhere. He doesn't wear it much out of fear of damaging his STREET CRED, but he totally bought it anyway.

[identity profile] vaultedthewall.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet it's one of those super awesome ones that actually lights up with the writing under heat.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely. AS IF HE'D SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS. XD

[identity profile] ranty-rie.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
...wow. That really does hit the nail in the head. XD

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
HE WAS A HOBBIT IN ANOTHER LIFE.

[identity profile] ranty-rie.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
...I wanna write gardener!Dera fic.

...damnit.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda want to do something with him writing adorable poetry. XD Except that his would be a lot worse than Sam's. Though it just occurred to me that they might both be inclined to wax poetic about fireworks of all things. I'M TELLING YOU, THEY'RE TWINS.

[identity profile] azartti.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
......now I want to see LotR again. And your thinking is so accurate, that if I do see them, I'm not going to be able to see just Sam in the movie XD

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I never get tired of those movies, although watching them can be a pretty epic undertaking. XD And haha, I can't just see Sam anymore either. Oh KHR, what have you done to me?

[identity profile] azartti.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
It's like watching the Star Wars trilogy, takes all day but it's worth it. And it made you take inside into other characters that resemble the ones in the manga?

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, now I can't stop trying to assign roles for everyone. XDD And yeah, it absolutely is worth the time. Nothing like watching an awesome trilogy over the weekend for pure geeky delight.

[identity profile] cleartempest.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
...this whole post is the truth O_O especially when this: After stabbing it like a total badass, he later goes on to kill some orcs further on in his rescue attempt because why the hell not.] comes before THIS: SAM: [gets his ass kicked by GOLLUM OF ALL PEOPLE like an idiot. Twice.]
LOL FOREVER
Haha, now I'm imaging if Frodo acted like Tsuna, "HIEEE SAMWISE ARE YOU OKAY ASFLKSDLGHK" /lame...I can't think of anything ;;;

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
JUST WHEN YOU THINK HE'S AWESOME... HE FAILS. Nothing pings more 'Gokudera' than that, lol.

Frodo is kind of like Tsuna in some ways, actually. Everyone is gay for him, he's got the whole 'befriending your enemies' thing going on (what with his trying to redeem Gollum/Smeagol), and he was more than a little failish in the first film in particular (HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU FALL DOWN AND HAVE THE RING FALL MAGICALLY ONTO YOUR FINGER, GOD). Hmm. DOES THIS MEAN GANDALF IS REBORN?

[identity profile] cleartempest.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU FALL DOWN AND HAVE THE RING FALL MAGICALLY ONTO YOUR FINGER, GOD
LOLLL INORITE. SERIOUSLY XDDD
...DOES THIS MEAN REBORN WILL DIE IN A VERY BADASS MANNER AND THEN COME BACK EVEN MORE BADASS
BYAKURAN IS SAURON. HE CAN EVEN SEE EVERYTHING IN MANY DIFFERENT POSITIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY OMG

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I ACTUALLY THINK HE MAY HAVE TSUNA BEAT IN OVERALL CLUMSINESS.

...YES. HE SHALL RETURN AS REBORN THE WHITE. Actually, I wonder if becoming an Arcobaleno counts, because he did undergo one hell of a change.

AND OMFG YES BYAKURAN AS SAURON. XDD AND UNI IS GALADRIEL CUZ I SAID SO. AND IS IT REALLY WRONG THAT I WANT TO PUT YAMA AS LEGOLAS BECAUSE HE'S UNFAIRLY AWESOME AT EVERYTHING AND IS ALWAYS POKING FUN AT GIMLI AND KIND OF CHUCKLING AT HIM BEHIND HIS BACK? Only he uses a bow instead of a sword... which makes me wonder who'd end up being Aragorn...

...WHY AM I ACTUALLY PONDERING THESE THINGS.

[identity profile] azartti.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
So Pippin is Lambo and Merry is I-Pin?

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHAHA omg yes.

*goes back to trying to remember if any of the main characters ever had trouble with walls...*

[identity profile] cleartempest.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Ohh, becoming an Arcobaleno can count too...so if it was for the sake of protecting the ring then I wonder if the Arcobaleno are protecting some kind of secret about the rings. I mean they are related via trinesette...

HAHAHA UNI! XDDD OMFG but...who would be Gimli...? Squalo? XD Come to think of it, they do have a history of differing allegiances (like elves vs. dwarfs = Tenth vs. Xanxus) and even fought over it during the Ring battles and eventually became allies in the grander scheme of things. I WONDERED WHO WOULD BE ARAGORN TOO...XANXUS?! But that only if I consider the whole adoption thing XD and his ties with Bilbo Baggins, who was the ring holder before Tsuna Frodo. lol idk /nerd

BECAUSE YOU ARE AN AWESOME LITTLE NERD ♥

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, the 7^3 and all of Sauron's magic rings... there's yet another similarity. HOORAY. I wonder when KHR canon will finally get around to telling us more about that.

SQUALO IS ABSOLUTELY GIMLI. POSSIBLY. HELL WHY NOT. I wonder who Ryohei is. XDD Xanxus... maybe Denethor? Because he's standing in for the king and all, and he has issues with his foster daddy and Denethor has issues with his sons... okay, yeah, I'm reaching, but this is hard, damn it. XD

Lol, and this is by far the nerdiest thing I've done in a long, long time. XDD *debates the merits of trying to make some sort of comparison chart*

[identity profile] cleartempest.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
XD this is weird, we are not likening Squalo to the pretty boy with long flowing white hair -- WHAT IS THIS. I was going to put Ryohei in as Gimli because of the boxing vs. baseball argument only he cares about. XD but he'd be a better...EOMER, I mean he's hot-blooded with a big brother instinct. Except Eowyn is totally unlike Kyoko...XD OH WELL
lol I forgot about Denethor XD much better choice than Aragorn. This is hard ffffffffff WHO SHALL ARAGORN BE

lol me too @_@ and omgggg comparison chart XDD I'D TOTALLY HELP YOU IF YOU NEEDED IT

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
:O Oh wow, Ryohei as Eomer is perfect. INSPIRED. Even if the Eowyn/Kyoko connection isn't too great... can't have everything, I guess.

ARAGORN... ARAGORN... super warrior man-of-the-earth guy with a crush on his immortal foster sister and a super awesome destiny that he doesn't really want... gdit I'm drawing a blank. XD That's the problem with LOTR, really; there are two main characters if you count Aragorn and Frodo, and I don't know how to rectify that with the one main character in KHR. XD

...we can come back to Aragorn later.

Haha, now I have a project for the next time I'm in need of something really nerdy to do. |D

[identity profile] nadramon.livejournal.com 2011-07-04 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
(Back to being a ghost because that's what I'm best at.)

About this discussion about who could be Aragorn in KHR... Nowadays Enma kind of fits the description, doesn't he? He's not that glad to be a mafia boss, is pretty cynical because of his crappy past and lacks both self-confidence and self-esteem, yet is incredibly powerful and a good leader. He would just be a slightly failing Aragorn. ^^; Then would Adelheid be Arwen? ...Hot. O_O (SORRY JULIE, I DO ship you with Adelheid, she was just the first "immortal foster sister" Enma might have a crush on that popped to mind! Please forgive me!)

Or maybe Shamal could be the kind of Aragorn who'd much rather sleep around than accept huge responsibilities? Dunno. Can't find an Arwen for him, though.

Back on Gokudera being so much like Sam... Now I can definitely picture him naming his first born son after Tsuna. The saddest thing? If Haru is the mother, she will agree wholeheartedly. If Yamamoto is the adoptive father? Same. Gokudera might meet more resistance if he has the kid with Shitopi-chan, though. (Oh man I'd LOVE to see them fight over that! XD)

...What? I jut listed the only plausible matchs I could think of! Except for Tsuna, because Gokudera probably wouldn't name a kid he adopted with Tsuna after one of his fathers. ...Or rather, Tsuna would veto it.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
IT IS THE TRUTH

[identity profile] kat8cha.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
...

Sam can't be Gokudera's favorite.

He's MY favorite.

MINE.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
THERE'S PLENTY SAM TO GO AROUND.

[identity profile] kat8cha.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
ALL OF HIS ROLLY POLLY BELONGS TO ME.

>|

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
THAT'S NOT NICE YOU HAVE TO SHARE D:

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
SOB

I WOULD KEEP ARGUING, BUT I JUST REMEMBERED THAT GOKUDERA CAN NEVER HAVE NICE THINGS ANYWAY. XD

[identity profile] circles9.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
LOTR MAKES EVERYTHING AWESOMER

I say extend this metaphor as far as it can be unreasonably extended.

But..... what would that make the Varia?

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
AND HOW

I have indeed been trying to! But I got lost following my flimsy little logic train. XD The casts of both series are just too big and varied, damn it.

I HAVE NO CLUE. Clearly this requires more thought...

[identity profile] circles9.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
My raging Tolkien fangirl immediately cries the Feanorean family!

**kicks inner fangirl**

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
...this is what I get for never having read The Silmarillion, I think. NERD FAIL XD

[identity profile] circles9.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I AM BIASED.

Silmarillion was my first fandom.

Yes.

It has a fandom.

AND I LOVE MEAN ELVES. *___*

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I REALLY SHOULD READ IT ONE DAY. I always meant to but never got around to it. I think I even bought the book... I need to find out what happened to it. XD

MEAN ELVES DO SOUND QUITE INTRIGUING.

[identity profile] circles9.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
SILMARILLION IS LOVE.

THEY ARE INDEED. ESPECIALLY FEANOR.

[identity profile] draconianangel.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
SAM: [gets his ass kicked by GOLLUM OF ALL PEOPLE like an idiot. Twice.]
ME: Damn.


I LOLED. SO HARD. JSJFHJKAJFJKFHKHFKJLOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

SOMEONE WRITE KHR X LOTR FIC! Oh wait, if Dera is Sam then Yama will be excluded in TTT and RotK. :(

Well then, SOMEONE WRITE KHR X HARRY POTTER FIC!

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There's nothing more Gokuderaish than failing incredibly hard (especially right after kicking some ass). XD

Yeah, that's the main problem with trying to figure out more LOTR/KHR connections; the casts are too mixed up in LOTR. I still haven't really figured out who'd make a good Yama. ALAS.

But I'm fairly sure the KHR/HP thing has already been done. Or if it hasn't, it SHOULD have been. I mean, there's a Harry Potter crossover for everything. XD

[identity profile] dame-batsie.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Can't argue with this, my friend. XD

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
AU soul twins. There are other similarities I didn't even bother mentioning, like the fact that Sam's always calling Frodo "Mr. Frodo" and that he's the only one who does this, just like Gokudera's the only one who bothers to address Tsuna as the Tenth. I HAVE THOUGHT WAY TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS.

[identity profile] circles9.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
**threadjacks** to LOL FOREVER AT THAT ICON XDDD

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
IT'S MY FAVORITE ICON OF ALL TIME. ♥

[identity profile] dame-batsie.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
THINKING MAKES FOR GOOD DISCUSSION SO NEVER STOP THINKING. <3

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, it does! AND FUN DISCUSSION, AT THAT.

[identity profile] theprerogative.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG now I can never unsee.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
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