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MYYYYYYYYY

1. Well, this is certainly one of the more underwhelming covers I've seen in terms of art quality, but that doesn't mean it's lacking in entertainment. For one thing, it's a much clearer view of all of Enma's wtfery than we got last week (and his flame does look like a penis,

merryrainbow, you were right! I SEE IT NOW ;_;), and for another, it provides us with the first really hilarious reaction panel we've gotten in this entire arc (not counting the rooftop battle between Hibari and Adelheid). I love Gokudera's face. I love Ryohei's face. But most of all, I love the fact that Chrome is so short that her face got cut off. XDDDD I keep clicking back to it and giggling. ~~THERE HAD BETTER BE ICONS.~~

Enma's hand has its own orbit. Dude.

2. Tsuna, apparently having missed the page in the last chapter where he asked, "The ones who hurt Yamamoto...?" and Enma replied, "Yeah, that was us," asks, "You're the ones who hurt Yamamoto?!" and Enma replies, "Yeah, that's right, Tsuna-kun." Tsuna again shouts, "WHY?!", and I'm pretty sure Morpheus said that when this happens it means there's a glitch in the Matrix, so I hope the guardians are extra careful.

3. Wow, really? "Rightful atonement?" Enma, suddenly I want to punch you really hard. At least Adelheid gave a real, non-bullshit explanation for attacking him. Geez.

Does anyone else notice that the Ninth is suddenly becoming the new Basil? Come on, man, even Tsuna is holding it together better than you. ~~No wonder you got kidnapped.~~

4. EXPOSITION PAGE! |D Blah blah Shimon Rings, blah blah earthquake, blah blah Shimon Cozart, blah blah pretty, pretty Enma. I mean, blah blah Sin. Yes.

How the hell did the Vongola not know exactly whose blood they were passing down to each new generation in their super important inheritance ceremonies? CHRIST YOU GUYS FAIL SO HARD. Were they just like, "HERE, IT'S SOME GUY'S BLOOD, I GUESS? IDK BUT I'M SUPPOSED TO GIVE IT TO YOU, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE VONGOLA MANUAL"?

--oh my God that's exactly what they did. 8| "How foolish of you, Nono." AND HOW. You tell him, Adelheid. I think her boobs inflate a little whenever she gets into the full swing of exposition.

5. ...actually, on second thought, given the sheer number of ridiculous Vongola traditions, I can kind of understand why no one bothered to look into the history behind this one. Anyway, so Adelheid takes it upon herself to explain that long ago, Vongola Primo and Shimon Primo were buddies, until Vongola "Protect the townspeople and fight for our loved ones without abusing our power" Primo tried to conquer Europe (...) using the Shimon family as bait (......). FOR SOME REASON THE SHIMON FAMILY AGREED TO THIS (???!), but then when the time came, the Vongola never showed and Cozart basically got drawn and quartered, holy shit.

And this would explain why Enma chose to test Tsuna in the same manner, and why his little shota heart was ripped to pieces when Tsuna never showed up either. Okay, so maybe he has reason to be pissed. A little.

6. But then he goes way too far by assigning Tsuna blame simply because he's loosely descended from the guy who supposedly did all this. I like that Gokudera immediately takes offense, because if anyone would know what it's like to be held responsible for the sins of your parents/ancestors, it's him.

Unfortunately, Tsuna makes two mistakes here that I can see. First, he incorrectly states that he doesn't have the ability to find out what really happened between the Vongola and the Shimon (TIME TRAVELING RINGS, HELLO), and second, he leaps to Primo's defense without any evidence, and also ignoring the fact that THIS MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY TO ACHIEVE DIPLOMACY AT THIS MOMENT. Just because Giotto has always appeared to be polite and well-groomed does not mean he was not capable of dickishness (in fact, judging by Mukuro and Byakuran, it almost makes it more likely). Granted, he's probably right, but I still think shouting it in Enma's face was probably a bad call.

7. Yeah, it seems to have pissed them off further. What a surprise.

So the Shimon family declares Enma to be the Tenth Shimon Boss (which for some reason takes everyone by surprise), and then Enma says that he's going to take over the mafia and regain the pride of the Shimon. Again, nothing that was even remotely unexpected.

8. Fortunately, Adelheid saves the day by giving us what we've really been waiting for this entire chapter: FANSERVICE. Oh. Hell. Yes. Coyote has the absolute funniest reaction anyone could ever possibly have (seriously, did anyone else laugh out loud? Because I pretty much died), and Tsuna's all, "Heeeeeeell no, here it goes," and then everything fucking explodes. And Gokudera saves the day (you're welcome, Nonos). And I just became so completely aroused it's not even funny.

9. Does anyone else find it both odd and hilarious that Chrome is still bothering to keep the Yamamoto illusion intact? CALL ME CRAZY, BUT I THINK THEY MAY BE ON TO YOU, CHROME.

10. Yaaaaaay, the Earth flame spoilers were right. NOW WE CAN SPEND THE ENTIRE NEXT WEEK SPECULATING ON WHAT THE EARTH FLAME COUNTERPARTS TO THE SKY FLAMES ARE. And also making comparisons to X/1999. Which, as I said in the comm, I am almost positive that Amano is now shamelessly ripping off. |D

Final thoughts:

They do look like Gundams. :O
ahhhh ahhh I can't stop imagining Kaoru running Yamamoto through with that... DRILL... SPEAR... THING, and I feel a little sick now.
Aoba and Julie look almost identical. I wonder if Amano just ran out of ideas with them. I kind of wish Julie's goatee had gotten some sort of transformation.
LARGE IS HILARIOUS, OH MY GOD. I WANT TO SEE HIM FIGHT CHOUJI.
Adelheid looks capable of killing absolutely everyone in that room. I'm amazed the Vongola are not just shrieking and running away. SHE IS A GODDESS OF DEATH.
Shitt P seriously looks 100 percent like a Gundam. Seriously.
Teeheehee, Enma, suddenly all of your minions look cooler than you. Poor guy. XD

I close this post with these immortal words spoken by MangaHelpers's Oni_James:

Fucking Reborn! The more I get, the more I want. XD

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Next on KHR: Paul the octopus correctly guesses that Vongola wins the next round of fighting. You heard it here first. ^^;;

I didn't even notice Drill Spear Thing, still too sunk about it all I guess.

Finally, I still think there is a reason D.Spade let drop that information and the whole Primo arc was aired before these chapters came around.

Honestly, I was disgusted by this chapter.

This arc has now sunk to "He Said, She Said" bullshit. On top of that, this whole thing between the two Primos STRONGLY reminds me of Kikyo and Inuyasha-- I now expect to have it revealed that both were betrayed/tricked by someone else. (D.Spade maybe?)

The Shimon to me are just throwing a tantrum, and adhering to the "Sins of the Past = Sins of the Present" crap really pisses me off, because it's so damn shallow an argument. Sorry, Enma, but you & your family suck even more now as villains in my eyes. Byakuran was a tough act to follow, and you're lame & cliched in comparison.

In any case, I demand Varia. They're the ones who can save this arc for me. I want VARIA, XANXUS, and ITALY NOW.

Actually, I thought the only sensible and totally kick-ass reaction from Tsuna to all the accusations would have been 'I don't care about this bullshit from God knows when. You hurt Yamamoto. You die.' But we may still get that from Gokudera LOL

In fact, my first thought at seeing everyone in their, uh, combat gear was 'LOL BORG'. But Gundam makes sense too. I'm definitely seeing the resemblance. But if anyone says the line 'Resistance is futile' in the near future I'm gonna LOL so hard Amano will probably hear me in her study.

Right, no snow flame. WOOT!

I'm betting that this entire thing is a "misunderstanding" (grossly understated, but ya know) from the very beginning, more so than just between Tsuna and Enma. Maybe the Vongola were betrayed by some other family and were unable to come to the Shion family's help, maybe the Shion went there willingly and without telling the Vongola but the truth was distorted by the survivors... There are a million possibilities (sorta) so who knows? ~~Besides Amano, I mean.~~

But seriously. Blaming the kid for the parent/ancestor's sins is not a cool thing to do Enma.

Adelheid looks capable of killing absolutely everyone in that room.

WITH HER INCONSISTENT BOOB SIZE, AM I RIGHT?

some people actually say Enma's flame looks like an uterus. I don't know which ~~disturbing~~ amusing imagery i should believe now.

like some people, i am overwhelmed by the... amount of "wtf-ness" this arc had become. I kinda have the same feeling as felinaofl2 above, just a milder version of it. >_>

LOL Shimon Primo look exactly like Enma... All mafias have limited gene pools (i talk gibberish).

Adelheid reminds me of a prying mantis... i don't know why D:

There is a boss from a video game that I forget the name of - but one of the main characters has boobs that actually eat people.

... And I'm fairly sure that's what's happening to my bffl Adelheid.

she is one of the protagonist, but Argilla from Digital Devil Saga (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/25701/1101774-argilla_super.jpg) fits the description. Her boobs cannibalize people. 0-0

YES YES ASJKDHLASJKDH HER.

SHE AND ADELHEID ARE ONE AND THE SAME.

then does that mean Serph and Enma are one and the same xDD
It's been a long time since i played that game. How nostalgic! It's fun but the level-up sytem is a pain.

PAUL IS NOT INFALLIBLE. HE MESSED UP TWICE DURING EURO 2008. My money is totally on the Shimon for this round. XD

I noticed it almost immediately, but that's because I was looking for it. Maybe it's a bit morbid, but I've been dying to know exactly how Kaoru inflicted those kind of injuries ever since 293 came around. Of course, now that I do know (or can reasonably assume, anyway), I almost wish I didn't. :(

Primo is obviously being FRAMED/CAUGHT UP IN A MISUNDERSTANDING/SOMETHING ELSE, but I do think both sides are jumping to outrageous conclusions given that neither of them clearly has any idea what actually happened. Sigh.

(Yeah, and I meant she was one of the girls from the game...? I looked back up at my original post and was like 'how did the word 'boss' slip in there?'. I'm so confused XD Actually, now that I look up there that entire sentence makes no fucking sense. I blame 6AM. /goes to bed)
I tried playing it, but I dun' like turn based games so I went off it really, really quickly haha.
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AND YES, IT DOES. ASKDJHASLJKDHA ADELHEID.

Yeah, it seems almost a given that there is/was some mysterious third party at work who screwed both the Vongola and the Shimon families over. I really hope it wasn't Spade, if only because I can't take him seriously, but he's a possibility. Or it could be that there was no third party at all, and Primo was simply caught up in some other tragic circumstances and was unable to make it in time. Though that doesn't really explain the supposed coverup. But I'm sure there's all kinds of possible explanations for that.

I can't really judge the Shimon family, though, because even though holding Tsuna and co. accountable for something they didn't do and clearly didn't even know about is amazingly retarded, it's the kind of thing people do in real life all the time. And they clearly have had a sucky, sucky time of it, and it's just so easy to blame the Vongola for it all, and to want some sort of justice for what happened to them, and so what if everyone who was actually responsible is long dead? WE'LL JUST BLAME THEIR DESCENDANTS. Stupid, yes. Cliched, definitely. Absolutely realistic given the situation? I think so, anyway.

Besides, I'm more interested in what happens because of all this. Watching Tsuna struggle with the politics of fighting a former friend and wrestling with the possibility that his other friend might be permanently injured, and being pretty sure that Primo is being wrongly accused, but maybe harboring just the tiniest bit of secret doubt, and where all that might lead. I dunno, I eat this sort of thing up. XD

Also I sort of hope the Varia don't show up too soon, actually. ;; Just because then this will turn into an overcrowded showdown like the end of the Future Arc, and with so many characters around none of them will get their proper time in the spotlight. I'd rather the focus stay on the main cast for the next few chatpers at least, and then when the Shimon make their inevitable getaway and we get a temporary breather, then Amano can spread the focus out and give us some updates on the supporting cast.

TL;DR I AM TOO FORGIVING OF THIS SERIES CLEARLY.

ENMA'S FLAME CANNOT UNSEE.

You'd think that Nono would know more, but considering that Tsuna was just about to become Tenth and knows basically nothing, I'm not that surprised.

I also think that the whole "conquer Europe" this was probably the fault of Spade and Secondo. I'm really excited though, because I'm hoping this means more Primo family showing up again.

Tsuna defending Primo in the way he did is probably not the smartest thing to do, but I think it's very in-character for him. Also, you can tell that Primo's not the same kind of dick as Mukuro and Bykauran because he never smiles as is always dying-will-srsface.

Adelheid's boobs are so inconsistent in this chapter, and it kinda bugs me.

Woot, C.A.I. \m/

Some of them are definitely Gundamish. But I agree with

reana_camellia that Shitt P looks more like a praying mantis than a Gundam.

Edited 2010-07-08 18:08 (UTC)

Yeah, that's more of a Gokudera response than a Tsuna one (and I really hope someone says something along those lines in the manga before too long). Tsuna has every right to be angry, of course, especially given Enma's incredibly flimsy justification that Tsuna clearly doesn't believe. But he's also the type who empathizes with his enemies even when he hates them, so given that this is Enma, who was his bestest buddy up until just five minutes ago, his reactions/emotions are liable to be somewhat more complicated. ~~I am looking forward to this more than I should be!~~

They are rocking that cyborg look. But when I think robots and Japan, my mind immediately goes to gundams, so. XD

EARTH FLAMES ARE WHAT ALL THE COOL KIDS ARE ROCKING, WHAT WHAT. I guess those were stone spears instead of ice ones. Or maybe they were ice, and ice is one of the earth elements FOR SOME REASON. Who knows.

Yeah, it's almost certainly going to turn out to be one of those "actually, it turns out that this is what really happened, and it was tragic but Primo wasn't at fault, he was a good guy who just wanted to help his friends :(" thing, but I don't really mind that much in the meantime. For me, it's more about watching Tsuna and co. deal with all of this and struggle with figuring out what to do. The plot is just an excuse for the character development, in my mind. XD

But yeah, Enma definitely needs to reevaluate the logic of all this.

THEY ARE THE SOURCE OF HER POWER.

How the hell did the Vongola not know exactly whose blood they were passing down to each new generation in their super important inheritance ceremonies? CHRIST YOU GUYS FAIL SO HARD. Were they just like, "HERE, IT'S SOME GUY'S BLOOD, I GUESS? IDK BUT I'M SUPPOSED TO GIVE IT TO YOU, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE VONGOLA MANUAL"?

This really is the sort of thing they should write down. Vongola records are crap, seriously. :|

But then he goes way too far by assigning Tsuna blame simply because he's loosely descended from the guy who supposedly did all this.

I swear, I spent the whole chapter going "Uh . . . you guys? I get wanting to regain your honour and all, but WHAT THE HELL DID THE CURRENT GENERATION EVER DO TO YOU." I mean, yeah, Tsuna misplaced your easily lost love letter, but that is really not good enough.

And Tsuna, the only way you could reasonably make that claim about Primo is if you were him (which is not completely unlikely, given Mukuro, but STILL).

Adelheid's BREASTS OF DOOM are nearly the size of her head. Just to remind you. (Although for once her thighs look about proportional to her boobs, even if her waist is still tiny.)

And also making comparisons to X/1999.

HAHAHAHA OH YES. More Clamp comparisons, just what we need! (The Dragons of Earth were the ones trying to destroy humanity and save the planet, right? And the Heaven ones were trying to save people? Or have the last five years dulled my memory?)

Teeheehee, Enma, suddenly all of your minions look cooler than you. Poor guy. XD

Even Tsuna looks cooler than him. At least his head is really on fire instead of kind of on fire.

*CRACKING UP OMG* XDDDDDD I'm already developing a habit of trying to avoid looking at his forehead, because clearly I will never be able to take him seriously again if I do.

It seems like the prevailing response to this chapter is "OH MY GOD SHIMON FAMILY HOW DUMB ARE YOU DOES TSUNA LOOK LIKE HE WAS BORN A HUNDRED YEARS AGO AND HAD A HAND IN PERSONALLY MAIMING YOUR ANCESTOR AND RUINING YOUR LIFE? I DO NOT THINK SO." And that is completely understandable. Still, like I've been saying in the comments above, I don't mind it all that much, because a) as stupid as it is, it's a believable motive on their part, and b) really I'm just in it for the main character angst, and this looks like it ought to provide buckets of it. So. XD

Haha, I noticed that too. I think the mafia just clones its bosses over and over again.

LOL, IT'S HER ANTANNAE, ISN'T IT. That's what cinches it.

CANNIBALISTIC BOOBS OMG I AM SCARRED FOR LIFE.

ALSO THIS IS NOW TOTALLY MY HEADCANON. Prove me wrong, Amano. ~~Or better yet, prove me right.~~

ENMA WHY DOES YOUR FLAME LOOK LIKE REPRODUCTIVE PARTS.

Yeah, I wonder if Nono had a childhood just like Tsuna's, where some random sadistic tutor came along one day and told him "YOU'RE IN THE MAFIA, DEAL WITH IT," and that was that, and he grew up just being constantly surprised by everything and just eventually learned to roll with it and stop asking questions. That would explain a lot about... well, everything.

Any excuse for Primos is fine by me. In retrospect, I agree with

ekmisao that the anime's Primo Arc was clearly helping to set the stage for all this.

Also, you can tell that Primo's not the same kind of dick as Mukuro and Bykauran because he never smiles as is always dying-will-srsface.

You have just single-handedly reassured me of Primo's innocence. XD

Lol, but then again, they've always been pretty inconsistent. BUT YEAH, IN THIS CHAPTER IT WAS REALLY BLATANT.

I've been typing up some pretty long and involved essays in defense of this chapter, but in truth, I'm pretty sure my main reason for liking it in spite of everything is that it had the C.A.I. You can't go wrong with Sistema C.A.I.

It's the antennae, definitely. Now that you guys have said it, I cant' unsee. XD

The x/1999 comparisons occurred to me too--though if villainous Enma ends up licking blood off of Tsuna's face before this arc ends, I'm going to be extraordinarily surprised. 8D And Enma's supreme-woobie-with-a-grudge face reminds me more of Kamui, anyhow. ~~...Now I want to see KHR as written by CLAMP. Ohgodwhy.~~ One thing's certain, though, and that is that Yamamoto is Keiichi.

Vongola clearly is ready to come under new management, because their organization & record-keeping skills completely suck. Not that Tsuna'd necessarily be a great improvement in this instance, but I doubt, say, Gokudera or Hibari would let this kind of bullshit slide.

This chapter just makes me want to learn more and more about Primo. I want an Adventures of Primo side story where we follow him around for a week as he roasts evildoers, does the crossword, makes eclairs, tragically misses appointments etc.

...and it also makes me want to see Gokudera kick some serious ass, but pretty much everything (including getting up in the morning) awakens that desire in me. xD

HAHAHAHA the main reason i love the fandom is i got to see people making fun of what supposed to be cool. Oh khr xD

I'm so disillusioned with the Vongola as a whole now. They used to be this mysterious all-powerful and all-knowing syndicate, and now we find out that they're basically just useless. MOVE OVER, NINTH GEN, IT IS CLEARLY TIME FOR A PERSONNEL CHANGE.

It's such an incredible leap of logic that it almost boggles the mind. I have to wonder if they really believe deep down that this is justified, or if they're just going along with it because having someone to blame is more satisfying than having the culprits being long dead.

...Well, but then again, Enma almost backed down until Tsuna failed his test. I guess that was really the final straw; maybe it's not that he holds Tsuna personally responsible so much as that he just thinks Tsuna is the same type of person that Primo was.

I really, really, really wish it would occur to someone that THEIR RINGS. CAN. FUCKING. TIME-TRAVEL. If they really want the truth, THEY CAN ASK. I think under the circumstances, Primo would understand the need to drag him out of retirement again.

The only way these last few chapters could have been any more Clamp is if Yamamoto had lost an eye rather than the use of his legs. XD (Uh, I'm not really sure. I haven't read X in the longest time myself. Wikipedia says you're right, though.)

And Tsuna's head doesn't look like a penis-slash-uterus. That's something, too.

Poor Nono.

Primoooooos. But the Primo Arc in the anime helping set this up definitely makes a lot of sense.

I always figured that since Tsuna's always compared to Primo and since Tsuna would never do something like that intentionally, Primo himself - while possibly doing sketchy mafia things every once in a while - was definitely a good person. Also, Vongola Hyper Intuition^TM.

Lol, I was reading the comments on the

hitman_reborn post, and one of them said that her boobs were growing because her flame is the Earth equivalent of Could and therefore has propagation abilities.

It's kind of depressing, though, that Gokudera has this track record of not being able to "officially win" battles, so everyone is surprised when he saves the day like it's nothing.

Also, SHITT P REALLY WAS A CREATURE FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE EARTH. Er... kinda. In the geeky part of him that's not all "You are going to dieeeee, Shimon", he's probably smugly congratulating himself.

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