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makeste ([personal profile] makeste) wrote2010-12-11 08:19 pm

FFF THIS POST IS FUCKING LONG.

Greetings, all!

So a few weeks ago, I got a new job, which has its pros and cons. Pros: I am slightly richer than before (read: still poor as the dickens). Cons: Internet usage is strictly regulated and monitored at the new job, so I'm pretty much away from LJ for about 12 hours a day (including commute and so forth), and sleeping for at least 8 of the other hours. THE FUN PART OF THE DAY JUST GOT A HELL OF A LOT SHORTER.

Plus on top of that there has been Christmassy stuff to take care of and colds to battle and so forth blah blah long story short I haven't reviewed the last two KHR chapters yet! Which was probably obvious already BUT I MUST MAKE EXCUSES FOR IT, OKAY. 8(

Anyway, what I was thinking was that I would wait until chapter 318 came out and then do like a double review or something. What I did not anticipate was that Vongola GP (a.k.a. KHR on cuteness steroids) would be premiering the same weekend! DAMN YOU AMANO AND TOSHINORI, SNEAKING UP ON ME LIKE THAT.

Soo... I guess it'll be a double review of KHR 317/318*, followed (most likely tomorrow) by a post on GP 01.

*you saw nothing! If you have no clue what I am talking about, then... good. XD


~KHR 317~


1. I liked the way Binktopia translated the preview text on this cover; I believe their phrasing was something along the lines of "Enma enters the battle! What exactly is his intent??" I remember reading it, and thinking to myself, "Um. TO KICK SOME ASS, is what I'm guessing."

Tsuna looks like someone just punched him in the feelings, but that's a given. What did surprise me was that Adelheid looks like someone punched her in the feelings. At this rate, it's only a matter of time before we get a panel of fucking Hibari making a Basil face.

Julie, meanwhile, looks more JUST AS PLANNED than anything, but that was not surprising at all.


2. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I THINK ENMA HAS FINALLY LOST HIS SHIT COMPLETELY. STAND BACK, THIS COULD GET UGLY. (No comment on Binktopia's version of this page which had Enma making that >8O!!! face while screaming "I CAN'T STOP IT NOW!!! IT'S COMING!!!" That kind of mocks itself.)

Moving on to the next page, oh fucking hell Amano are you trying to make me cry or something. :/


3. OH NO TSUNA LOST HIS SHIT TOO WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO WHEN THE TWO WUSSIEST, PEACE-LOVINGEST KIDS IN THE MAFIA LIGHT UP ON FIRE AND BLOW AWAY LAMBOS AND START SCREAMING AT EACH OTHER. *hides*

...on the other hand. So far this is not so much scary as it is hilarious. XD

MIIIIIIIND CRUUUUUUUSH


4. And then Lambo had to go and spoil my fun by making an expression of legit fear and horror. D: I have discovered that when child!Lambo is used for non-comedic purposes, I have absolutely no idea how to react. Way to catch me completely and utterly off-guard, Amano.

Fortunately, Lambo was incorrect and Enma's mind crush did not, in fact, crush Tsuna. In fact, it looks like what the mind crush did was basically... not... anything. Whoopsy.

Predictably, Enma is enraged by this and even starts mouthing off at his mommy Adelheid in retaliation. "YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME, ADELHEID!!" Sorry, Adel, your little baby is all grown up and annihilating Vongola.


5. "What!? He could fly too!?" WHY. WHY ARE THEY EVEN SURPRISED. EVERYONE CAN FUCKING FLY, OKAY, JUST. ACCEPT IT ALREADY.

I'm gonna skip right past this page cuz I've got three freaking chapters to review here, no time for action mishmosh.

la la la

derp derp derp


6. Actually, much as Amano is still in need of work when it comes to her fight scenes (she kind of plateaued around the end of the Varia Arc, it seems), I have to say, I actually did get a sense of badass for a second there toward the end. This may not be much to write home about on paper, but it's going to look fucking awesome once it's all animated. Whenever that may be.


7. "...They're even!" Now that he mentions it... that is kind of a miracle, isn't it? When was the last time you saw a shounen battle that wasn't all back-and forth "YOU HAVE THE UPPER HAND BUT NOW I HAVE THE UPPER HAND!!"? I don't see why we don't do this more often; personally I think it's much more fun this way. Eh? Eh?


8. Gotta hand it to Enma, he raises a good point. He took Tsuna's lack of responsibility-taking and threw it right back in his face! And I say this despite the fact that I normally I've got Tsuna's back when it comes to this issue of him not wanting to be a boss. To be fair, what Tsuna says is true--he does only use his superpowers to defend himself and his friends. And it's not his fault the role of Vongola Tenth got landed on him, and he didn't ask for any of the endless drama that constantly surrounds him, and he didn't start any of it.

But on the other hand, he does sort of have this rose-tinted view of the Vongola, if not the mafia in general, and he's kind of in denial about all of the horrible things the Vongola family has done in the past. Well, not in denial, maybe, but he doesn't like to think about it much and whenever the issue comes up he sort of sidesteps it and is like, "Well, maybe that's true but my family isn't like that," and so on and so forth. And whatever he may say, he clearly does have a little bit of mafia pride about certain things, because whenever the subject of Primo comes up, for example, he pretty much defends him blindly. But he only ever wants to focus on the good things and just really doesn't ever want anyone to shove the harsh realities of the world in his face because frankly he just doesn't want to have to deal with it.

And okay, much as it would be nice if this were a perfect world and he could just live a safe, happy, ordinary life, as Enma has continued to point out, Tsuna's got mafia in his blood whether he likes it or not and that choice has pretty much been taken out of his hands. If the comic books are right (and I think we all know that they are), with great power comes great responsibility, and one of these days Tsuna is going to have to step up and say hey, I'm in this position of awesome power and influence whether I like it or not, and I have a choice to either step back and let bad things keep happening even though I have the power to maybe stop them, or I can man up and try to do something. For all that he is constantly Jesusing people, at some point someone does need to Jesus that into him. It's what we've all been waiting for since the start of the series, and while I fully support his right to resist the inevitable and be a normal, derpy (and yeah, maybe somewhat selfish--he's allowed) teenager for as long as he's able, one day that is going to happen. And at this rate, maybe it'll be Enma that does it.


9. Because on this next page? Things are going down, motherfucker. YOU WANT PLOT? WE'LL GIVE YOU PLOT. HELLO, MY NAME IS KOZATO ENMA, YOU KILLED MY FATHER AND MOTHER AND SISTER, HOLY FUCKING SHIT, PREPARE TO DIE.

OH AMANO YOU DID NOT JUST! OH IEMITSU SAY IT ISN'T SO. SAY IT'S JUST JULIE AND HIS LYING LIES. (Well, of course it is. But still.)

SHIT JUST GOT REAL SON! AND HO BOY HERE COME THE WATERWORKS... NO... COME ON, MAKESTE... KEEP IT TOGETHER...! !

fff


10. KER-PUNCH, and that was the story of how Tsuna died. The end.

OH NO, NOT NON-DYING WILL TSUNA, HE'S ONLY MORTAL FOR CHRISTMAS'S SAKE, AND NOW THIS FIGHT IS NO LONGER EQUAL BECAUSE HE (ALONG WITH ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO'S ACTUALLY GOT A SOUL, I'M JUST SAYING) WAS TOTALLY SWAYED BY ENMA'S HEARTBREAKING STORY OF TRAGEDY AND NOW HE DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO FIGHT ANYMORE AND MEANWHILE ENMA'S MORE FIRED UP THAN EVER AND ALL, "I WON'T STOP UNTIL I KILL YOU BIIIIITCH" AND HOW TERRIBLE THIS IS REALLY BAD, THESE ARE REALLY DREADFUL CIRCUMSTANCES.

SUCH A CLIFFHANGER, HOWEVER WILL WE SURVIVE THE WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT CHAPTE



~KHR 318~


(By the way, fair warning, I actually haven't read this one yet so I'm probably going to be flailing and !!!-ing all over the place here.)

1. AND WE OPEN WITH A VERY TERRIBLE PAGE OF TERRIBLE EVENTS. Well! That just does not bode well at all for the Vongola in this chapter, now does it.

I do feel a bit better about the fact that on the following page Gokudera looks more >8O than I would expect him to look if Tsuna actually was being killed right in front of his eyes (that would be more of a D8 face, I imagine, and there would probably be quite a bit of sobbing as well). So it seems pretty safe to say that Tsuna's not quite murdered yet.


2. And that's about the only thing I really am sure of right now because wh...at...?

Hey, Enma's letting Tsuna go! Could it be out of the goodness of his hea--

--oh. Nope. No, it's just the Simon ring awakening. Good timing! Those crazy mafia rings and their deus ex machina, I'm telling you. It seems that in fact, all the rings, not just the Vongola rings, love Tsuna the best.

Also, I just have to say (since I have been dying to do so this whole week): BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW ENMA. ;________;


3. You know what, I'm such a sucker for angsty backstories and essaying about them that I am just going to give in and paragraph for a little bit. SO THAT ENMA KID. I SORT OF LOVE HIM TO PIECES NOW. And it is entirely because of this whole sob story about his sister, I completely admit. I liked him a lot already because he was cute (once you got past the creepy eye factor) and cuddly and sweet and Tsuna-ish and then, once he got hold of the ring, surprisingly badass and hilariously prone to long emo rantings, but now, with this? INSTANT FAVORITE. Bumped right the fuck up to number 4 just after the untouchable Vongola trio (with many apologies to Shou, who I believe last occupied that spot).

But you guys, seriously, everything about Enma suddenly makes total fucking sense and it's like what happened when I first found out about Gokudera's angsty mafia past--suddenly everything just clicked. And it's one thing to have suspicions and theories about a character's backstory and why their personalities are the way they are, but when something is actually confirmed, and everything just falls into place, it's like holy shit, suddenly this character is so much realer that can be a word! if I want it to be! now, and oh wow. I made the so-obvious-as-to-almost-be-redundant observation last week (wait... two weeks ago XD) that Enma is a more desperate and maybe slightly unhinged version of Tsuna, but to have this revelation that it's not just because he grew up orphaned and mistreated, but because his family was actually murdered by (he thinks) the Vongola, and not just his parents but his sister... wow.

Because you see, what happens then is that I go back and reread the first few chapters of this arc (and come across pages like this that just piss me right off XD), and suddenly this is not just a random pathetic emo kid, but a kid who's so completely used to being abused that he just silently puts up with it, and so depressed that he just really doesn't give a fuck about anything aside from his family (by which I don't mean that he's particularly hateful or violent; mostly just apathetic and expecting the worst from every situation), and it makes his friendship with Tsuna seem all the more miraculous. (Also, it seems that far from being overdramatic, he was actually understating a lot of things during his impromptu anti-mafia rants. XD) And he ended up wanting so badly to trust Tsuna, and then to have Tsuna just leave him hanging (THANKS SO MUCH I-PIN)...! No wonder he snapped! I would have snapped! I would have gone completely batshit crazy and tried to kill everything too, and that is the truth.

And he kept acting like it was all just about Giotto and Cozart and their family histories when in reality this was the driving factor all along. His sister. And he was just burying it and burying it and then Julie in all of his infinite dickishness fed him the one lie (I assume!) that he knew would just send him flying into inconsolable rage mode, and just. God. I haven't felt this way about an angsty backstory-fueled descent into madness since Uchiha Sasuke, and just. WELL DONE, ARC. You know exactly which buttons to push to cheaply manipulate my emotions, Amano. <3


4. ...Boy, look at that I just never shut up! Anyway, we're only five pages in so I should probably get a move on here. As I was saying before, thanks to a benevolent twist of fate, Tsuna, not Enma, is actually the main character, and thus no matter how much of a fucked-up angstfest Enma's life turns out to be, he's not just going to kill Tsuna because the plot will not let him! Which is to say that the Simon family is inexplicably retreating to fight again another day!

Which is a damn good thing, because Tsuna pretty much looks like I feel. ;_;

Well, I mean, he just had a confrontation with a former boyfriend who got all up in his face and told him, while clearly in agony, that Tsuna's father was directly responsible for destroying everything he ever loved. YEAH, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN HE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE SHAKEN UP FOR A BIT.


5. In that case, we shall leave him to his angst and return to Castle von Simon, where Chrome is currently taking her sweet time to escape, and taking so long that in fact Julie barges in and is like, "Oh hey were you trying to escape? That's so cute! ♪" which would have been hilarious if he wasn't such a creep about it. Why you do this to me Julie.

Then he proposes to her, and she responds with a polite "No thanks," which is very sweet but also very ill-advised because really, Chrome. To get him to stop making these disturbing advances, what you really have to do is be less adorable, not more.


6. I thought Chrome was fully capable of creating her own illusionary organs now, though? Oh, but I guess not while she was unconscious, though. Huh. I guess we sort of owe him one except not really because lol he's the one who kidnapped her in the first place. WELL... THANKS FOR NOT JUST STRAIGHT-UP MURDERING HER, I GUESS...?

Though if I were Chrome I would totally be like "oh ICK get your illusionary organs right the fuck out of my body THIS FUCKING INSTANT, oh god I will never be clean again 8|."

And actually, that whole line of thought sort of makes this next page incredibly disturbing! Wow, I regret that so much now that it's not even funny. Oh man.


7. I'm gonna give Amano the benefit of the doubt and assume that she's well aware of how deeply unsettling this entire scene has been so far, and that it is in fact intentional. Just in case anyone out there still wasn't certain that Julie is a very, very bad man.

NOT THAT IT MAKES THINGS ANY LESS AWKWARD HERE. SERIOUSLY, OKAY, WE GET IT ALREADY.


8. ...Oh my gosh that's so surprising I think I'm gonna have a heart attack and die from that surprise.

And now Amano's really trying to fuck with us, haha. She's all, "BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE! MORE TWISTS! LOOK! LOOK!"


9. "JULIE IS REALLY DAEMON SPADE!! HAHA! HOW ARE YOUR MINDS NOW? TOTALLY BLOWN?? HUR HUR I THOUGHT SO!" XD

Well, she's always been hit-or-miss when it comes to these things, though, so that's all right. This particular twist was even more obvious than the "SIMON FAMILY ARE REALLY THE BAD GUYS!" twist, but let's not forget she did legitimately blow our minds with good!Shouichi and impaled!Yamamoto back in the day, so when she really wants to, she's good for it. Maybe she's just trying to make us feel complacent so she can set us up for something really unexpected later. And if I'm giving her too much credit, well, whatever; at least this 'twist' still gave us the deliciously ironic panel of someone not-Mukuro saying they want Mukuro's body, which will never stop delighting me ever.


10. Oh but come on now spade pupils that is really just too much. ...and now Chrome's evil. This plot just totally became lulz. AS EXPECTED WHEN THERE IS A MIST GUARDIAN ON THE LOOSE IN THE HOUSE.


So! That was my superlong 317/318 REVIEW SPECIAL!!, I hope you enjoyed and/or did not drown in all those walls of text. "TL;DR" IS A PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE COMMENT, I WILL NOT TAKE ANY OFFENSE.

AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO [livejournal.com profile] derpmaid ♥, [livejournal.com profile] riotpunkdance, [livejournal.com profile] snarkwithasmile, and [livejournal.com profile] chesauroshin, Y'ALL ARE AWESOME AND I LOVE YOU AND I'M SORRY FOR BEING SUCH A FLAKY FLAKE ABOUT KEEPING UP WITH MY FLIST. And my journal. And... you know, everything. XD PEACE.

[identity profile] aradiantsun.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Congrats on the job! \(^∇^)/

At this rate, it's only a matter of time before we get a panel of fucking Hibari making a Basil face
Oh goodness, please yes AMANO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

The whole bit with Iemitsu makes me happy because YAY mafia people doing mafia things, but I'm also all nooooooo, Iemitsu whyyyyyyy. What would your lovely and adoring wife say?????

It seems that in fact, all the rings, not just the Vongola rings, love Tsuna the best.
Mafia ring uses power-up.
Sawada Tsunayoshi uses Main Character Status. It's super effective. (As you point out as well later on. *typing comment as she reads your post*)

And word on Enma being more appreciable now. I admit I tend to like characters with angst to a greater degree than "normal" characters, but now I really just want to bake Enma a chocolate cake with peanut butter icing and give him a tall glass of cold milk and just hug him. It's the sibling story - I am such a sucker for sibling bonds and how they drive characters.

I am rather confused about Chrome's organs, though. Her learning how to take care of that herself was a big deal back when it happened - all 'shipping arguments aside - that it really feels destructive to Chrome as a character to me. I'm holding out hope that she'll get to be awesome and get a "but I know something you do not!" (to keep with the Princess Bride references) moment where she reveals she was just playing along with Daemon, kicks his ass, and goes back to taking care of her own organ creation, but I'm very skeptical. I love this series to little pieces, but sometimes I wish it was one where the ladies got to be badass. Bianchi doesn't count because of how she was written in the future arc.
Edited 2010-12-12 02:44 (UTC)

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! It's not the best job I've ever had, but it's not the worst, either, and with the holidays coming up I really needed one, so.

HIBARI BASIL FACE. SERIOUSLY. ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAAAAAS.

And much as it would be interesting if what Julie/D. told Enma actually turned out to be true, I can't bring myself to believe for a second that Iemitsu actually did kill Enma's folks, given that this series is what it is. Iemitsu is a total badass and the Vongola do have a pretty bloodied history post Primo-era, but still. It's Amano. Who gave us a Future Arc ending where EVERY SINGLE PERSON WAS REVIVED SOMEHOW BY MAGIC. There's just no way. I'm not even sure I'd believe it if we actually saw a flashback; it just seems that unreal to me.

Sawada Tsunayoshi uses Main Character Status. It's super effective.

IT REALLY IS.

And man, I hear you on wanting to bake Enma a cake and cookies and cuddle him and so forth. I'm also a huge sucker for sibling bonds (maybe because I'm pretty tight with my own siblings), and man, I just feel so bad for him, goddamn.

And yeah, I don't really like Chrome just being used as a plot device for Spade to gain access to an apparently much more important character. :/ Come on, Amano, just ONCE let's not have the girls be total wimps. Even Adelheid is starting to suffer from KHR Woman Syndrome lately, although in my desperation I'm still clinging to the hope that Spade's just using some sort of Mist voodoo weirdness to aid him in intimidating She Who Should Not Be So Easily Intimidated Goddammit. He seems to have manipulated the rest of them pretty well enough, so. XD

At least Shitt P got hauled off to jail more or less untainted. :(

[identity profile] tidaby.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
In the Future Arc, Chrome was able to make her own organ illusions thanks to the power of the Mist Ring. But didn't her ring get smashed with the rest during the Inheritance Ceremony? And she hasn't had the chance to get her shiny, new Vongola Gear either so she might not have the power to take care of herself right now.

P.S. If Chrome's Vongola Gear is not a kick-ass new eye-patch, I will be extremely disappointed.

[identity profile] amberrei.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Ack, I'm sorry you have this little free time. Do your best, dear! Also, I was expecting for your commentaries to pop up <3

But on the other hand, he does sort of have this rose-tinted view of the Vongola, if not the mafia in general, and he's kind of in denial about all of the horrible things the Vongola family has done in the past. Well, not in denial, maybe, but he doesn't like to think about it much and whenever the issue comes up he sort of sidesteps it and is like, "Well, maybe that's true but my family isn't like that," and so on and so forth. And whatever he may say, he clearly does have a little bit of mafia pride about certain things, because whenever the subject of Primo comes up, for example, he pretty much defends him blindly. But he only ever wants to focus on the good things and just really doesn't ever want anyone to shove the harsh realities of the world in his face because frankly he just doesn't want to have to deal with it.

Not fucking really... Tsuna DOES NOT have a rose-tinted view of mafia. The kindest thing he said about it is "HIII! MAFIA IS SCARY!". He said twice, both in the needle sphere-Vongola Test and against Daemon Spade (anime-only), that he will use that power to protect his friends, and that only. He thought he could do anything to protect them, but if the price to pay is to accept the cruelty of mafia... he will destroy Vongola! After this, Giotto accepted him *twice*. They have the SAME view of things, so Primo might as well be the ONE AND ONLY person Tsuna respect and/or admires inside the whole mafia, with Reborn, Timoteo... and no-one else, I guess.

Also, I just have to say (since I have been dying to do so this whole week): BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW ENMA. ;________;

My god, for real... and I thought Simon's motives were shallow around Target 297. Now I'm a HUGE fangirl of both Enma and Cozart with preference for the latter (MY GOD. If I re-open those two pages of Target 316 I'll seriously die from bloodloss... not to mention the guy heavily inspires me). They're on par with Tsuna and Giotto in my preferences.[WHO THE HELL ASKED YOU THAT AMBER I DON'T EVEN]

Omg, I keep on reading and you read my mind (yes, I'm writing the comment while I'm still reading)...

a kid who's so completely used to being abused that he just silently puts up with it, and so depressed that he just really doesn't give a fuck about anything aside from his family (by which I don't mean that he's particularly hateful or violent; mostly just apathetic and expecting the worst from every situation), and it makes his friendship with Tsuna seem all the more miraculous. (Also, it seems that far from being overdramatic, he was actually understating a lot of things during his impromptu anti-mafia rants. XD) And he ended up wanting so badly to trust Tsuna, and then to have Tsuna just leave him hanging (THANKS SO MUCH I-PIN)...! No wonder he snapped! I would have snapped! I would have gone completely batshit crazy and tried to kill everything too, and that is the truth.

Y.E.S. Perfect analysis. OH GOD why am I teary-eyed. I started to think WAIT THE FUCK UP. Maybe Enma looked so apathetic because he was still under shock from his sister's death. This made me feel HORRIBLE. He was in the same state Tsuna is in now, maybe. So terrible. Can I adopt them both to be my younger brothers? I promise I'll be adorable with them *-*; I don't know if you read my journal often (you know I write TOO MUCH X°D;) but after re-reading the arc from the beginning to the Forest Battle I had already noticed HOW HARD had it been for Enma to trust Tsuna. And how pained he felt when he was betrayed. Then, these latest chapter come. I don't know really, I can't favor Vongola over Simon. Simon clearly aren't the enemy.

And,

Tsuna's face. Oh boy, I know Reborn is the way he is and he didn't mean any harm andDON'T KICK HIM FOR GOD'S SAKE LOOK AT HIM ._________________.

I'll never TL;DR anything. I'm so fond of textwalls my own comment is one. <3

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, thanks. I'm starting to get used to it now so it's not as jarringly WHOA WHERE THE HELL DID THE DAY GO?? as it was at first. XD Hopefully I'll figure out how to make more effecient use of that free time than I currently am.

And I guess I should have phrased that Tsuna rant a little better, because I do get what you're saying. Like I said, it's not that his views on the mafia in general are particularly sparkly (quite the opposite), but I do think that despite the fact that he's constantly complaining about how insane his own mafia family is, and despite the fact that he saw firsthand just how terrible the Vongola were in the past, he does have a somewhat naive view when it comes to the current family--Timoteo and Reborn and the like. It's because he's so determined to see the good in people, I think, that sometimes he overlooks or ignores the fact that these people were at one point in the past, if what Amano's hinted at is true, pretty vicious. Which is not really surprising, because this is the same person who willingly sort-of kind-of forgave/befriended/allied with?? lunatics like Xanxus and Mukuro. I think he does have a tendency to shy away the darker aspects of their nature and focus on the positives.

And on those occasions when we have seen him confronted with the darker side of the mafia, like during his succession test in the Future Arc, he doesn't like it at all and tries to block it out. Like you mentioned, his response to the vision he had during that test was to say he would wipe out the Vongola. Not change it, not try to atone for it; wipe it out. When Timoteo later pitched the idea of him trying to follow in Primo's footsteps and restore the Vongola to the family it originally was back before shenanigans fucked it all up, he refused. Graciously, and with a good reason (wanting to protect his friends), but he was still kind of running away from what was obviously a monumental if not impossible task, all the same. And I find it hard to believe that someone as empathic as Tsuna could make that decision if he truly did fully understand just how bad things were, and how much he, in the position of Vongola Boss, could do to prevent the mafia from creating any more future Enmas. That's all I was really trying to say, I guess.

and I thought Simon's motives were shallow around Target 297

lol, me too. I will give you an exact quote from my 297 post: Wow, really? "Rightful atonement?" Enma, suddenly I want to punch you really hard. At least Adelheid gave a real, non-bullshit explanation for attacking him. Geez.

sob, hindsight. I'm sorry Enma, I understand where you're coming from just a little bit better now. XD

I started to think WAIT THE FUCK UP. Maybe Enma looked so apathetic because he was still under shock from his sister's death. This made me feel HORRIBLE.

YES! YES ME TOO OH MY GOD. HE WENT AND PUNCHED EVERYONE IN THE GODDAMN FEELINGS, THAT KID. SO SNEAKY. And yes to everything you said about Enma having difficulty trusting Tsuna and then when he finally did take the leap and was betrayed o-oh man, I can hardly even read that part now when I go back to it. I don't know who the fuck to side with anymore; neither Tsuna nor Enma can really be blamed under the circumstances. IT'S ALL FUCKING SPADE'S FAULT. Sigh, this would be the arc where we finally get an actual competent villain. ;_;

DON'T KICK HIM FOR GOD'S SAKE LOOK AT HIM ._________________.

I actually like that he tried, presumably expecting his tough love method would snap him out of it the way it usually does, and instead it had absolutely no effect. When even Reborn can't get through to him, you know it's really bad.

And heh, I like reading your textwall comments (and posts! I just went back and looked at your last couple of KHR reviews and enjoyed them very much, though I haven't had a chance to comment yet), so it's all good, then. ♥

[identity profile] amberrei.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
About your explaination of the Tsuna rant: ok, now I'm staring at the pc and nodding, you are definitely right and saw through Tsuna better than me. I never thought about this. He wants to ERASE and not CHANGE. *I felt some inspiration tingling right now* It's easier. This adds up to Tsuna's realism as a character-and as a 15 year old boy-though. I'll go further: a 15-year-old-CONTEMPORARY-boy. The comparison with Giotto and Cozart, who were the same age, is amazing. They were dreamers. They actually wanted to change things. I think Tsuna is son of our times. Amano-sensei portrayed him VERY realistically. It's almost scary. Many people criticize him and expect him to man-up... I honestly think he won't, it's this character point. He's no shonen hero, he just... wants to protect things that are dear to him. Like in the future arc: saving the multiverse? He couldn't even GET IT. Bringing his friends to the past? Alright, he'll do it. Think about it: if the world was ending, what would you do? Save it or save the things and people you hold dear? I'm really expecting Tsuna to destroy Vongola. Especially if the Iemitsu rumor proves true. But even if it isn't true, he's witnessing all the pain the Simon family members had to feel because of his own family and allied families. There's no fucking way he will neutrally accept the role of boss, I think. Or, he will understand what Timoteo said (put an end to the conflicts, etc) and change things. I really can't predict Amano's story. Well, I RARELY can.

I actually like that he tried, presumably expecting his tough love method would snap him out of it the way it usually does, and instead it had absolutely no effect. When even Reborn can't get through to him, you know it's really bad.

Yup, I perfectly know those are "love-kicks" XD but still something inside me said "this is no moment for kicks, this is moment for hot chocolate, hugs and kisses." HE NEEDS YAMAMOTO. For real. He's the only person who I think might manage to make him snap out of it. Gokudera can't, as much as he (platonically and in the least omosexual way) loves him. He isn't able to. But if he does, he will amaze me. It will show his growth even more.

And heh, I like reading your textwall comments (and posts! I just went back and looked at your last couple of KHR reviews and enjoyed them very much, though I haven't had a chance to comment yet), so it's all good, then. ♥

Aw, thankies and no worries: you need to make the best use of the little time you have, reading my massive rants is no best way. xD






...I know I'll be waiting for Adel's fight to end because I'll finally get what I'm afraid of since target 308. Cozart's death. Expect massive baaawwwing.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
This adds up to Tsuna's realism as a character-and as a 15 year old boy-though. I'll go further: a 15-year-old-CONTEMPORARY-boy. The comparison with Giotto and Cozart, who were the same age, is amazing. They were dreamers. They actually wanted to change things. I think Tsuna is son of our times. Amano-sensei portrayed him VERY realistically. It's almost scary.

I have always identified with Tsuna much more than with other shounen protagonists for exactly this reason. He actually wants to take the easy way out--the idea of that much power and responsibility terrifies the living daylights out of him. Instead of "I WANT TO GO OUT AND CHANGE THE WORLD!", he's just like, "I wish the world would leave me and my loved ones alone so that we could mind our own business without any more bad things happening to us!" And the only reason he keeps on getting dragged into these adventures is because it doesn't. But he's very reluctant about it.

...which is exactly why he could and I think still will in all likelihood make an amazing boss one day, and one of the many reasons why this arc excites me, because this situation with Enma is finally forcing him to face all of these issues that he's tried so hard not to face in the past. I think at this point, his character could go either way. He might continue to "No thanks I think I'll pass on the mafia" route that he's been taking so far, or he might finally take a step up after this and realize that the amount of potential good he could do if he tried to take up Primo's mantle and remake the Vongola just might be worth it, even if it means sacrificing the simple life that he wanted. Because that is where I ultimately see him heading, once all's said and done. I'm just not sure at this point if it will take the entirety of the series for him to reach that level of maturity, or if Amano is going to push him more toward that now (...or if this is, in fact, the final arc BUT NO THAT CAN'T HAPPEN LET'S FORGET I EVEN SAID THAT). My prediction skills are about as good as yours, I think. XD

Yup, I perfectly know those are "love-kicks" XD but still something inside me said "this is no moment for kicks, this is moment for hot chocolate, hugs and kisses."

Yeah, I totally agree, but you're right, Gokudera and Reborn (and Lambo) really aren't cut out for this sort of thing. A YAMAMOTO IS REQUIRED, I AGREE. Gokudera will try his best (and he might do better than we expect! He knows what it's like to be faced with the notion of "surprise, so it turns out your father, with whom you have always had a strained relationship with but still begrudgingly loved and respected, was actually a really terrible person who did a super-horrible thing to another person you care about greatly!", after all. Even if he found out YEARS AND YEARS LATER that it wasn't really true), but he's never been the best at comforting (since he usually starts to panic himself and some of that ends up coming through). But who knows!

...I know I'll be waiting for Adel's fight to end because I'll finally get what I'm afraid of since target 308. Cozart's death. Expect massive baaawwwing.

And I will be right there with you. ;_;

[identity profile] kat8cha.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
...wait, didn't half of us guess that he was Spade already? I mean, 'oh my gosh he's like Mukuro-sama but not!'

And 'zomg the Vongola/Shimon family was betrayed!'

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, we did; I actually was kind of being sarcastic about the whole OOH HOW SHOCKING them, l-lol... I SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEARER ABOUT THAT I GUESS? Ah, sorry. XD

But yeah, seriously, from the discussions I'd had, I was under the impression that a lot of people had basically accepted this twist as fact weeks ago and were already operating under the assumption that Spade was in fact the brains behind Operation Make Tsuna And Enma's Lives Miserable Forever. At least the whole fandom is all on the same page now, I guess.

Now if Amano would kindly oblige us with an update on where the fuck Byakuran and Yamamoto fit into all of this, that would be progress.

[identity profile] kat8cha.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
XD NO NO I FIGURED OUT THE SARCASM I just... was failing at humor. Or coherency.

I'd like to state that two weeks ago was Shouichi's birthday and NO BYAKURAN WAS HAD and this is a travesty. Maybe she'll unveil Byakuran's birthday as being Jan 1st and we'll have something in a few weeks.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
OHHHH, so it was I who misread! That makes more sense. XDD /derp

AND I FORGOT SHOUICHI'S BIRTHDAY? ACTUALLY I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE HAD A BIRTHDAY? I NEED TO RECTIFY THIS, I SHOULD WRITE SOME STUPID FIC OR SOMETHING. Especially since Amano did nothing on her part to honor him with the one present he never asked for and would probably adamantly refuse but we all know he secretly really wants. YOU MISS YOUR BUDDY, SHOU-CHAN. ADMIT IT. YOU DO.

...though actually. According to Reborn wiki, Byakuran's birthday is October 28th. Which means I share the same birthday as Byakuran. Which means that now my mind actually is blown. XDDD

[identity profile] kat8cha.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
CLEARLY THIS WAS MEANT TO BE!

...wait, really? I thought he hadn't gotten a birthday yet.

Shouichi will never admit to missing Byakuran. EVER.

He does though.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
SEE FOR YOURSELF! Though I actually have no idea if that's accurate, I'm just putting my blind faith in them. ...so wait, what is this, I'm name twins with one psychopath and now birthday twins with another? COME ON, THAT'S NOT EVEN FAIR.

And oh yes, he does. He definitely does. He was his bestest buddy and maybe more! You know there's not a day that goes by when he doesn't look out the window and hum that song from An American Tale or something equally heartfelt and yet hilarious.
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[identity profile] derpmaid.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU FOR WISHING ME A HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BB!♥♥♥

ALSO: JULIE (DAEMON SPADE) IS A FUCKING CREEP AND I KINDA HATE HIM VERY MUCH. I ALSO REALLY DISLIKE THE FACT THAT AMANO HAS APPARENTLY FORGOTTEN THAT CHROME CAN CREATE HER OWN ORGANS, SHE DID THAT IN THE FUTURE, AND DUDE, SHE DID SLEEP AT TIMES SO BEING UNCONCIOUS IS NOT A GOOD EXCUSE, AMANO!

Oh Enma, you and your emo rants. Though, in this case, it's very much justified. Poor little creepy-eye.
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Forgot to comment on the job because I'm a moron

[identity profile] derpmaid.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Also: FFFFFFFFF... I'm sorry you have little fun stuff time! But at least more money is good, yes?

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
♥ ♥ I hope you had a good time! (oh man, and that reminds me I saw that you had posted an update on your time in Okinawa a couple weeks ago and I had started to read it but then something sidetracked me and I never got back to it... and now I feel bad, I gotta go back and finish that. XD)

And +1 to everything you said about Spade and Chrome. I mean, at least when Byakuran was running around being an obnoxious smiley creeper villain, he had the excuse of being completely insane. Whereas I don't think Spade is insane at all (or you know, at least not anywhere near to the extent that Byakuran was XD); he's just a terrible, terrible person who likes screwing people over for the lulz. Either that or whatever stupid grudge he seems to bear against Giotto is even more ridiculous and unfounded than I previously thought that Enma's grudge against Tsuna was. XD

AND CHROME! You know, what will really piss me off even more about that is if, now that she is a mind-controlled zombie, all of a sudden she starts acting like a badass now. Because even though I will begrudgingly find that really hot, the idea she's gotta have Spade puppeting her before she starts being used to her full potential is just really, really vexing. I hope she fights back instead. Actually, if she did, she could potentially even end up being the savior of this arc, so that would be awesome. I'm not holding out much hope, though. :(

Heh, and re: job, yeah, at least it's a paycheck. It's really not too bad, though I do miss being able to lurk on LJ all the time. Mostly it's just something I have to adjust to.
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FFFFF... TL/DR

[identity profile] derpmaid.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
I did, actually~ ♥ A friend from Australia had come to visit me so we sat around in my (incredibly small) apartment and just hung out! It was fun! My birthday was "properly" celebrated on the Saturday before my birthday. It was for everyone born in November, and they sang happy birthday and we got to blow out candles on desserts and everything. XD (One of the birthday babies was french, we ended up wishing each other a happy birthday with their kiss kiss on the cheeks thingy. In front of everyone. I don't even know the guy! XD) Also, I've just realised that I've forgotten when your birthday is and if I remembered to wish you a happy one... fffff.

Yeah, Byakuran was a nutcase of epic porportions. He probably always were, a little sociopath who then got a way to use his crazy for fun world domination. What really strikes me as a plothole now that I think about it is the boxes. The reason they worked in that future was because Byakuran had brought over technology from another Univers. So technically... THE BOXES SHOULDN'T EXIST IN THE PAST. Well, save for those of our heroes, becasue they brought them back with them.

Asdo, one thing that strikes me as odd. Shouldn't Daemon Spade be long since dead? Because it's been a while since the Vongola was started and he was active, I mean... How is he still alive? XD Spade; the non psycho bastard who should've died a long time ago. (I'm voting that his grudge against Giotto is ridiculous and unfounded.)

I know, it's really vexing that the only time little Chrome acts badass, even though she has a lot of potantial for it, is when he's basically just a brain dead puppet. Why is Amano so unfair to the female characters? The only truly badass one is Bianchi... and she never does anything. D:

Yeah, Chrome being the saviour of the arc is something we can hope for, but it certainly isn't very likely, is it? It's a lot more likely that when they find out the true story about Vongola/Shimon it turns out that Giotto didn't betray... Shimon head whose name I've forgotten, but rather that Spade somehow fucked that up. And that it wasn't really Iemitsu who killed Enma's family, it was once again Spade who decided to fuck shit up and then Tsuna beats the crap out of Spade and Jesuses Enma and then they go off together to free their guardians from the Vendice together like true mafie Head BBFs or something.

Yeah, jobs... they suck a lot of the fun in life out. :/ Well, i'll be cheering for you and sending my love, at any rate!

I think this post just kinda goes to show how I've missed going off on fangirl KHR rants with you. ♥

OH PLEASE, LIKE I HAVEN'T BEEN TL;DRING ALL NIGHT :P

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, that does sound good (lol at the cheek kissing thing, too; I would have ruined that whole thing because I'd be so embarrassed about it that I just would not stop cracking up, most likely XD). Glad you had fun! And lol, I apparently share the same birth date as Baron von Dickenstein here orz, I just discovered this tonight. XD

Oh man, you're making my head hurt with talk of time travel and boxes at 1:30 in the morning now, though. I'll need to try to remember to come back to that tomorrow, because I can't even really think about it right now. XD

As for Spade, going by what he said about taking over Mukuro's body, I'm guessing he's been sort of body-hopping his way to immortality, jumping from illusionist to illusionist. He's alive because he's currently taking up residence in Katou Julie, and before that it was probably some other unlucky bloke. The Vongola rings probably help him out too, what with their time traveling ability and all. Don't ask me to try and guess at the mechanics of it beyond that, though. *no clue*

And yeah, the scenario you just described is by far the most likely one, but all the same, here's hoping Amano pulls out another SURPRISE BYAKURAN/YAMAMOTO FUNTIME twist out of nowhere to mix things up. *hopehope*

Haha, thanks! And I've missed fangirling with you too. ♥ Always a pleasure. *brofist*
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IF YOU SAY SO!

[identity profile] derpmaid.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
Fffffff... if I did forget it, and I probably did, then I'll say it now: Happy belated birthday, BB ♥♥♥ Also: Baron von Dickenstein. LOL's out loud, NGL. XD

Oh, I'm so sorry! I guess I kinda went of on a tangent there. It's just been bugging me for awhile, I guess. XD I suppose it's what happens when you suddenly stop fangirling your fangirling posts ffffffff...

He probably has been jumping from body to body, it just kinda seemed like Julie didn't actually exist, his entire being was just Spade. but tha tcould just be me. XD Another problem with the Vongola rings helping him: he doesn't have it anymore, does he. When Primo passed everything on to Secundo, he sealed the rings and split them in two and shit. So Spade shouldn't have been able to use that power anymore. I'm curious how Amino's going to get out of this corner she's metaphorically painted herself into. ... Or maybe she'll just do like she did with the boxes, hope we don't remember past exposition. If no one remembers it, then there's no plot hole! XDb

It's just such a boring scenario, and one done to death as well. But yeah, let's hope Chrome does some awesome shit and that Mr Smiley Rape Face and Yamamoto do something to twist shit up a bit. :Db

Anytime. ♥ It always is, for me at least. ♥ *brofist*
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[personal profile] way2dawn 2010-12-12 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
Th-that icon.

I need that icon in my life. Is it gankable? Pleasepleaseplease say yes.
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[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, it is by [livejournal.com profile] morgrix and I believe it is gankable; she made and posted it over here but she was kind enough to let me take it (my reaction when I first saw it was very much the same as yours XD), so yeah, I don't think she minds. ♥
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[personal profile] way2dawn 2010-12-13 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Happy day happy day :DDD Will do it as soon as I'm not on my phone :D
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[personal profile] way2dawn 2010-12-12 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Firstly, thank you for the birthday wishes ♥

Secondly... BAWW THESE CHAPTERS. IT'S EXACTLY LIKE A PUNCH TO THE FEELINGS.

Julie Spade is a lying bastard, and I hate him. Enma and Tsuna should never have been enemies, and the misunderstanding is just getting worse and worse.

Unsettling is... an understatement to how I find the scene with Spade and Chrome. But the reason Chrome isn't making her own organs is because she doesn't have her ring with her; it fell off her hand at the ceremony and is currently in a Talbot-rock. I'm really hoping she'll fight Spade off and get to kick some ass, since it looks like Mukuro isn't going to show up anytime soon.

As for Tsuna and responsibility... I do think that he will eventually come to the point where he starts doing something proactively instead of just reacting, and Amano is slowly but steadily working him to that point. I don't personally think that Iemitsu really killed Enma's family (because Spade is a lying asshole), but Amano is presenting Tsuna with situations that will challenge that reflex he has to try and ignore or push himself away from the bad parts of the mafia.

[identity profile] makeste.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome! I hope you had a great day. ♥

And yeah, my emotions have definitely been taken a metaphorical beating. I OPEN MY HEART TO A MANGA, LEAVE MYSELF VULNERABLE, AND WHAT DO I GET? *sobs*

And yeah, it really kills me that this entire thing was orchestrated by this one superdickish guy. I'm not sure whether that's better or worse than it just being a misunderstanding. On the one hand, it makes me want to smack my forehead a little bit less (it's a small comfort to know that even if Tsuna had gotten the letter and met Enma at the abandoned plot lot, Spade would most likely have figured out some other way to turn the two of them against each other), but on the other, I now have a target to direct my rage at and I am finding that I have a lot of it! Spade had better get his, that's all I'm gonna say.

And yeah, that scene with Spade and Chrome is just... ... Haha, and I completely forgot that she was using the ring to help generate the illusions. /memory fail XD I hope she does try and fight him off somehow, though. The one thing I did like about her in this chapter was how she told him off and said she didn't need his illusions even knowing full well that she might die if he stopped. Chrome doesn't shout at people often and Julie/Spade dearly needs to be shouted at much, much more, so that at least was something that briefly made me happy.

And I agree about Tsuna and the way Amano seems to be steering his development in this arc. I'm looking forward to seeing how that goes.
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[personal profile] way2dawn 2010-12-13 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
My cousin finally had her baby, so it was pretty much the best day ever <3

So is I-Pin off the hook now? But it actually does change the tone when we find out officially that there's someone behind all the terrible misunderstandings. Spade makes me so angry; I really hope Tsuna gets to smack him up for everything that's happened.

Chrome is usually really quiet, so I definitely agree that her shouting at him was good for her development as a character.

He probably won't get there all the way until the end of the series (or really goshdarn near it), but this arc has been good for showing development for pretty much everyone.

[identity profile] teruame.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
:) Yay! Loving your wonderful updates on the KHR manga. X3

Tsuna and Enma really are in a misunderstanding, I guess. Though...I was slightly disappointed because of it. ^^; I mean...mafia things should happen in a mafia world, amirite? ^^; Some people really do end up killed intentionally, and the blame should be there. Though, this IS Amano's wild, wild west...

Though, yeah...I do agree so much on the part for Chrome. :( I want a girl to be badass, for once. Why, Amano, why? What's wrong with making a girl strong? :(

[identity profile] demoerin.livejournal.com 2010-12-13 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
But ... most people's reaction to their entire family getting murdered is not going to be "Oops, but that happens". Even people who join an army get quite upset about things like getting shot at and killing others. Being in the mafia most likely means you're more used to violent death and all, but it would be weird if that meant Enma shrugged off the murder of people he loves.
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[identity profile] ravelqueen.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
ahh thank you for this, I always delight in fannish flailing and I kind of checked you lj compulsively the last 10 days^^

the thing that really struck me about the whole thing and doesn't leave me alone, is that Tsuna has been stridently defending Primo the whole time, even though all kinds of atrocieties have been laid at his feet.

I mean he doesn't really know the guy, only had a few hallucinatory nearly-dying-here conversations with him, but he still defended him to everyone.

And till 317 I just thought, "well thats who Tsuna is, the little trusting soul *hug*".

But then! he hears the thing about his father from Enma and believes it!!

Or at least isn't really sure and doubting...the stuff that that implied just seriously broke my heart, because how sad is it, that he believes a dead guy, he hasn't really met, but can't vouch for his father not randomly killing innocent children his age

That right there Iemitsu is pure parental fail of the highest degree and I hope you are ashamed of yourself

[identity profile] demoerin.livejournal.com 2010-12-13 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Chiming in to agree, this is totally the saddest thing. I almost feel sorry for Iemitsu that his son has this little faith in him ... except that Iemitsu's still a dick.

[identity profile] lodelco.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone said that maybe Iemitsu DID kill Enma's parents and sister.
Because Spade is a very VERY evil bastard and why should he like when he can manipulate people into killing one other thus making it the truth. I like to think he's very thorough. I mean, he told Chrome about his involvement but put her under hypnosis so she can't tell anyone anyway.

Poor Tsuna, not even Reborn-kick could snap him out of it. I can just imagine the mental breakdown when it turns out Iemitsu might have killed Enma's folks and sister. Tsuna DID promise to Giotto to destroy the Vongola right? But isn't destroying the Vongola what Spade wants? Looks like Spade's got it covered on both sides, I'm worried.

[identity profile] storm-obsession.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Enma's totally shooting up my scale of Favourite Character as well, and I'm beginning to think that Amano's just PAINFULLY GOOD at making up little boy characters that look painfully adorably cute/emo/KYAA-able. Like Basil, Tsuna, Fuuta (okay not really), and now Enma.

Someone mentioned something about because the Mist Ring shattered she can't make her organs anymore, so...yeah.

C'MON PRIMO. I seriously don't get that guy. Trustworthy guardians, and he hires a half-mad Napoleon cosplayer who wants to possess his (probably) decendant and basically screw up ten generations of another mafia family (assumably he had something to do with the explosive crap that happened to Shimon) and mess with the Decimo's life. Nice guy.

[identity profile] blackjedii.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, just passing through since I read yuor KHR reviews...

@Chrome's organs - someone at the KHR LJ community pointed out that she needs her Vongola ring to keep the illusion going. And the ring was smashed at the Inheritance Ceremony. While I still want her to kick Julie/Spade in the nads, I'm kind of proud of her for actually attempting to escape and then at least being pretty defiant towards him. She's always struck me as having even less self-confidence than Tsuna, if that is possible at all.

[identity profile] bakememuffins.livejournal.com 2010-12-13 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
317 & 318 = AWESOME TO THE INFINITY.

I mean like, IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN UKE-RAGE FEST. A crying Enma really makes me sad ;___;

NOW WE KNOW WHY JULIE'S A FREAKING PEDO. HE'S SPADE.

Ahhhhh you should try making a review of Vongola GP, I'm sure it'll be hilarious :D I mean, you get to see a not-so-weak Enma!

And I do hope Hibari gets to the island soon before Adelheid's turn to rage. Because she looks like she wants to murder someone *coughTsunacough* for hurting her boss D:

[identity profile] animenutcase.livejournal.com 2010-12-13 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
I've come to look forward to your chapter reviews. My mind is boggling. Congrats to the person who guessed that Enma had a dead sister. I'm very happy to see that I was right about Enma just wanting to beat up, or rather, kill, Tsuna.

Amano sure is being mean to her characters lately. Ryohei and most of Shimon are in the Vindice Prison of Doom, where Mukuro is still technically locked up, Hibari is... Hibari, Chrome's been kidnapped and brainwashed, Yamamoto's been maimed and possibly crippled, Enma's on the verge of a psychological breakdown, and Tsuna doesn't look like he's far behind.

Reborn, Gokudera, and Lambo are the only ones who are more or less the same, with Gokudera getting better.

[identity profile] demoerin.livejournal.com 2010-12-13 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Congrats on the job! Boo lack of free time (your commute must take forever??). But hooray money!

Sadly, my reaction to Enma vs. Tsuna was the same as yours. It's a dramatic moment and all, but heehee, angry flying shota fight.

But the big dramatic moments were awesome. Enma pointing out how Tsuna uses power but ducks responsibility was great. I never expected KHR to get that shades-of-gray. I like your mini-essay about Enma a lot - it makes me appreciate his backstory better. Re-reading this arc becomes more and more interesting as info about the Simon family comes out. Now I actually find that stupid misunderstanding with the letter understandable and sympathetic!

And I totally have been waiting since waaaay early in the series to see how/if Tsuna faces up to what he should do and what he has to become, if he takes on his position as boss. If Enma makes the development happen I'll love him forever.

The Julie-Spade thing would probably have been slightly more unexpected for people not been following the anime - someone on [livejournal.com profile] hitman_reborn said that was their experience. If you watch the anime, you're prepared for Spade coming back and being a dick in present time, as opposed to having been redeemed in the past already. (Why did Giotto like that guy ever?)

[identity profile] clonechild.livejournal.com 2010-12-13 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
;alkfjd;alf so this is what happens when I am not online for ages (also just got work, actually); I miss the hilarious recaps!

This chapter left me with two thoughts: one, ICK JULIE/DAEMON (but who the hell was surprised really, I think everyone saw that comingn) and two, I hope there will be lots of 'MUKURO-KUN, I WANT YOUR BODY' jokes. How do you like that, Mukuro?

Poor Chrome ;_;

Oh, and before I forget, I wanted to apologize for sort of overreacting in the chapter 316 discussion. Not my best moment, for sure. So, uh, have this? (http://clonechild.dreamwidth.org/18388.html?#cutid1) It's not my best work oh god I have never written these characters before and the ending is failtastic, but, unm, I'm sorry for overreacting!

[identity profile] hasu-messiiah.livejournal.com 2010-12-14 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Despite me knowing and guessing this whole damn time julie was actually spade, i still flipped shit and scared my roommate half to death with me going: "YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU!! AMANO!! YOU!! YOU!! SPADE! HNGHHHHHH! HOLY -- !! WHAT THE -- !! AHCSDVHXGVUGD!!! -POINTS AT COMPUTER AND FLAILS WHILE MAKING SOUNDS THAT MAKE NO SENSE-" and jumping halfway across the room. I don ' t know why, but maybe the fact that julie is like .. super awesome and pretty made me want to believe he wasn't spade. BT

But now of course we have spades pants. ARE THEY NOT THE MOST FABULOUS THINGS YOU HAVE EVER SEEN?! okayenoughofthat. ontomyrealpoint. Now we are gonna have the crazy theories of HOW THE FUCK SPADE IS THERE. he's like ... 500 years old or something? i would personally be cool to throwing IMMORTALITY into the mafia mix. cause hey, no manga is complete without IMORTALITYYYYYY!

then of course .. is there a real julie? spade is a good actor, as we can see from the anime when he posses chrome, and to fool enma, even more so to fool adelhied, he had to get his shit from somewhere. so is the real julie dead? or just locked up in some creepy spade torture prison somewhere that spade goes back to and refreshes his memory on what his little troll body looks like? on a side note, i was enjoying the nufufufu laugh. a good change from byakuran and mukuro just fufufu'ing at one another to communicate. and who doesn't love, 'IWANTYOURBODY' jokes? i sure as hell love them!!

most likely, more points of discussion will come to be AFTER i finish my stats exam ;; BUT CONGRATS ON THE JOB! ; u; i wish i had a job. but i am just a silly fangirling college student ~ my friends and i totally missed your rant for 317 last week though. <3 glad to have it this week at least. you're amazing and hysterical as always and you know how to brighten my day! lova ya ~ <333333333

[identity profile] windgoddess688.livejournal.com 2010-12-16 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
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(the fact that I kinda just learned what tl;dr means is....rather interesting...)

and the fact that 317 came out during finals week did NOT help me study since all I could do was go :OMFG IEMITSU DID WHAT?!!! NO WAIT IF IT'S NOT A LIE IT MAKES SENSE CUZ DUH MAFIA

oh Tsuna...I would give up all the klondike bars in the world just to have you slowly get some maturing in the "hey the mafia are all SUPER bad except my family (varia kinda nothwithstanding)" department....

shit now i gotta re-read the beginning chapters too of this arc just cuz it would help bring certain points of Enma out a bit... (btw, wow Sasuke....good times good times)

other than that....*HUGGLES* CONGRATS AGAIN ON THE JOB! It's always good to know that people on my flist go AWOL for good life reasons (ie- job, school)and not for...emo reaons (ie- suicidal, depressed)

And have fun celebrating ze holidays! Stay warm!! I send you warm thoughts from ze west coast!!!!